Comments on: HOGWASH! HOGWASH! Orange & their data policies http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:00:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: steve procter http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html/comment-page-1#comment-9464 steve procter Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:30:55 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html#comment-9464 "Supply and demand" is one thing and indeed keeps a good market economy ticking over. But "we will rip you off because we can and you still keep coming back for more" is in my honest opinion disgusting behaviour and one of the few times I like to see governments intervene in business (as with roaming charges). The names of the guilty operators are in our little black books and come the day of the revolution..... steve “Supply and demand” is one thing and indeed keeps a good market economy ticking over. But “we will rip you off because we can and you still keep coming back for more” is in my honest opinion disgusting behaviour and one of the few times I like to see governments intervene in business (as with roaming charges).

The names of the guilty operators are in our little black books and come the day of the revolution…..

steve

]]> By: Jim Black http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html/comment-page-1#comment-9459 Jim Black Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:11:10 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html#comment-9459 Do the sums - 100 people at 7.50 is 750 per month in revenue. And probably these customers will buy additional data services/apps as well. A few people being ripped off on stupid data plans to the point where they don't use the service for fear of the cost, probably a lot less revenue I'd imagine. I wonder what the ratio of Tmobile customers using data services is to the other ops. Or perhaps a more accurate figure might be how many new T-mobile susbcribers are signing up for unlimited data at the same time? So if you want to recoup your investment in the infrastructure, you need paying customers. Simple concept surely? Where would the Internet be today without the advent of fixed price broadband? Even if you go for a capped download limit, it's usually pretty generous. I haven't actually heard of anyone who has actually been told by their ISP to reduce their consumption. However, we may be getting close to the tipping point after the x-series announcement. Anyone care to predict how long before the other ops announce flat rate data plans? March 2007 is my vote. Jim Do the sums – 100 people at 7.50 is 750 per month in revenue. And probably these customers will buy additional data services/apps as well.

A few people being ripped off on stupid data plans to the point where they don’t use the service for fear of the cost, probably a lot less revenue I’d imagine.

I wonder what the ratio of Tmobile customers using data services is to the other ops. Or perhaps a more accurate figure might be how many new T-mobile susbcribers are signing up for unlimited data at the same time?

So if you want to recoup your investment in the infrastructure, you need paying customers. Simple concept surely?

Where would the Internet be today without the advent of fixed price broadband? Even if you go for a capped download limit, it’s usually pretty generous. I haven’t actually heard of anyone who has actually been told by their ISP to reduce their consumption.

However, we may be getting close to the tipping point after the x-series announcement. Anyone care to predict how long before the other ops announce flat rate data plans?

March 2007 is my vote.

Jim

]]> By: mark http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html/comment-page-1#comment-9441 mark Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:20:07 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html#comment-9441 Just because you can rip off your customers doesnt mean its a good way forward unless you want to make a lot of money fast and get out of the market either by selling up or closing down . Just because you can rip off your customers doesnt mean its a good way forward unless you want to make a lot of money fast and get out of the market either by selling up or closing down .

]]> By: Rhodri Thomas http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html/comment-page-1#comment-9439 Rhodri Thomas Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:17:53 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2006/11/hogwash_hoghwash_orange_their_data_policies.html#comment-9439 Hi there,

I completely agree. As a user, rather than a mobile industry worker, I would like to use Shozu. Orange told me it was £3 a MB for off-portal data downloads, which is completely absurd and preventing me from using the features on my whizzy K800i.

Not only is it non-sensical generally, but specifically it orevents you from maximising the handsets THEY test and release on THEIR network! Duh!!

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