The simple fact that the iphone is a CLOSED system, ie you can’t install your own software for me ends the topic. Never mind if we start compairing hardware..

I.e.

1. 2MP crappy cam vs high end 5MP on the n95 (and please look at some of the images this phone is taking as they are stunning).

2. Wifi 54G on the n95 vs.. oops.

3. Almost DVD quality video, again I’ve got an n95 and watching it via n95s tv is just amazing.

4. High speed 3.5G data. I just downloaded a 10meg mp3 over my phone in under 1min. Lets see you try that with you 2 year old out of data EDGE connection.

5. GPS vs google maps. Yeah google maps is great if you know where you are.. but erm. If you don’t you’re in trouble. The n95 has GPS built in, and I can run google maps if I want (at a speed where it’s useable).

6. 8GIG HD vs unlimited Orb streaming. Who cares about the mem size. I can playback and media file from my home media server over 3.5G.

7. 3D gfx chip for next gen gaming on the n95 vs.. oh wait, sorry doesn’t really count as you can’t install any apps on the iphone. Enjoy that card game you get.

8. I’ve got a keypad. Enjoy looking like a muppet tapping away on your touchscreen, and enjoy that screen getting dirty everytime you want to do anything (can anyone say scratches?).

I could go on but too be honist if you really think the iphone is a better device than the n95 I’m guessing all this will just fly over your head. Really you have NO idea just how amazing the n95 and it shows from this rubbish you’ve typed.

Good day to you.

Simon

Is that a reasonable assumption? If so, you could also conclude that you won’t be offered much in the way of 3rd party email clients, or at least ones that integrate with the phone’s address book. Not much fun..

Which, if true, will turn out to be a massive disappointment – fully integrated address books have still be be exploited in the mobile space, IMHO.

*easy for someone who knows what they are doing, not me. I’m not a programmer

I view Symbian as extremely restricted in the context of an Apple device (or, actually, a linux based ‘properly-open’ device) that would enable you to easily develop and deploy applications and services to the handset. Right now, the whole process of getting an application on to a mobile phone is 1,000% ridiculous. I’m not just counting Symbian, I’m including the other major systems too.

It’s certainly accurate to question the OS X issue. I think I gave the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure there will be issues.

As for the iPhone being a premium price. Sure thing. My interest is in pushing the manufacturers and operators toward more and more innovation. I really do hope that Apple cause them to redress their modus operandi, pull up their socks and do a little bit more innovation and development.

The iPhone itself could be a hunk of shit We shall see!

Statements like “Symbian itself, the lauded and flexible operating system, looks absolutely ridiculous compared to a functional OSX on board” are simply not based on fact. Even Apple have admitted what should be obvious to every developer, that when they say it runs OS X what they really mean is that they used a lot of code and design principles from OS X. The APIs are, of course, different. It will not run applications designed for the desktop, even if the phone were open to third party applications, which it isn’t. “It runs OS X” is a meanless statement, pure marketing.

The iPhone is nothing more or less than a phone with a premium interface at a premium price. Nothing about the rest of it hasn’t already been seen on other phones. Even the feature set is somewhat disapointing. Why can’t you buy music or sync with a desktop over wireless? That’s the kind of thing you’d expect Apple to excel at. All we know about the iPhone is what Apple’s marketing department have shown us. If they release it, and it drops calls, crashes and does other bad things, is it still revolutionary? What if the touch screen is annoying and slow to type on, because it offers no tactile feedback? What if it’s a triumph of form over function that gets greasy and the touch screen shatters when you put it in your pocket, or breaks when you drop it on concrete?

Steve

-What processor does it have (maybe they’ve ported OSX to arm?)

-What’s the battery life going to be like? Bearing in mind the big hi-res screen and no doubt powerful processor. Symbian OS is also extremely power efficient compared most operating systems, will OSX be as good?

-How much memory (RAM) does it have? Bearing in mind OSX isn’t exactly frugal with it. My N73 has 48Mb – but I could easily see OSX needing 5-10 times this. That all adds to cost and power consumption.

All together a pretty neat looking device. I’ll believe it when I get to play with one though ^_^

1) Is it true that you can’t download tunes direct like say you how you can on a Sony ericcson. Does one still have to synchronize with iTunes?

2) Are a generation of Nokia/Sony fans in Europe/Asia really going to give up a keyboard for a touchpad?

3) Are T-Mobile, Vodafone, Three, etc going to modify their infrastructure just to accomodate Apple. Well maybe if the technology could be copied but being patented to the hilt. I doubt it.

It looks nice. Has created seamlessness between apps, and runs on Os X. And like most Apple products is comparatively expensive. I reckon it will be a nice to have but Nokia and Sony Ericcson will kick their but in Europe, Africa and Asia for the foreseeable future.

I wouldnt mind getting Apple TV though!!

You mean like most every other phone and electronic device on the market?

Before you ask questions like “why is it so revolutionary” you MUST go to the apple website and watch the “introducing iphone” KEYNOTE video. Goes on for over an hour, watch it ALL the way through, and you will see why it is different and revolutionary.

It is funny, this is exactly the kind of comment ipod got. E.g. “Its just another mp3 player with a different control and interface, so what.. it doesnt even have a radio”, yet they now have around 200million of the things sold!

The networks will be the problem over here, but the phone will sell around world in the millions, no doubt!

Dave
http://www.mikafanclub.com

But if they seriously expect a whole lot of users to shell out THAT much money for a 2.5G phone in 2008, well, they might be in for a surprise.

If a 3G version comes out, or the price drops dramatically, I might just be in it, though.

I hope this move by Apple convinces the other handset manufacturers to concentrate more on the user interface and experience…. the best example I keep referring to is how Apple and Nokia’s browsers differ even though they are both based on Apple’s open source Webkit project (www.webkit.org).