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	<title>Comments on: GMTV viewers spunking 45k a day in &#8216;wasted&#8217; premium rate calls</title>
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		<title>By: SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; GMTV fined £2m by Ofcom</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/04/gmtv_viewers_spunking_45k_a_day_in_wasted_premium_rate_calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-116649</link>
		<dc:creator>SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; GMTV fined £2m by Ofcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just days after their ex-service provider Opera Telecom was slapped with a £250k fine by premium watchdog ICSTIS, the Government&#8217;s broadcast regulator Ofcom have handed out a £2m fine to GMTV for their part in the multi-million pound premium rate scam. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; ICSTIS fine Opera £250k, impose ban over GMTV fiasco</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMS Text News &#187; Archives &#187; ICSTIS fine Opera £250k, impose ban over GMTV fiasco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the GMTV fiasco? The TV broadcasters telecoms provider Opera has just been fined £250k by regulator ICSTIS and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dodgy phone and text lines have been part of the premium telephony industry for a while, you only have to look at http://www.icstis.org/service_providers/adjudications/default.asp to see that the premium telephony industry has it&#039;s fair share of chancers and fraudsters. The key difference is that now this is television. It&#039;s not dirty chat lines found in the classified ads in the red-tops. It&#039;s average people being defrauded by the TV brands they trust. The brands they trust to give them unbiased news, accurate information and fair entertainment. 

My concern in all this, is the damage it is going to do to legitimate services and not just premium SMS. What about companies who are looking to embrace mobile services like two way SMS for the first time but are just put off because of the bad feeling surrounding SMS that these stories create. 

It is beholdent on all of us in the mobile industry to insist on compliance by all of our clients. We must provide them the tools and the services that ensure trust is rebuilt among the users. 

The success of interactive SMS in the broadcast sector has done a lot to raise the profile of SMS in the business sector. Everyone is, after all, a consumer. We need to make sure that it doesn&#039;t go on to ruin it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dodgy phone and text lines have been part of the premium telephony industry for a while, you only have to look at <a href="http://www.icstis.org/service_providers/adjudications/default.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.icstis.org/service_providers/adjudications/default.asp</a> to see that the premium telephony industry has it&#8217;s fair share of chancers and fraudsters. The key difference is that now this is television. It&#8217;s not dirty chat lines found in the classified ads in the red-tops. It&#8217;s average people being defrauded by the TV brands they trust. The brands they trust to give them unbiased news, accurate information and fair entertainment. </p>
<p>My concern in all this, is the damage it is going to do to legitimate services and not just premium SMS. What about companies who are looking to embrace mobile services like two way SMS for the first time but are just put off because of the bad feeling surrounding SMS that these stories create. </p>
<p>It is beholdent on all of us in the mobile industry to insist on compliance by all of our clients. We must provide them the tools and the services that ensure trust is rebuilt among the users. </p>
<p>The success of interactive SMS in the broadcast sector has done a lot to raise the profile of SMS in the business sector. Everyone is, after all, a consumer. We need to make sure that it doesn&#8217;t go on to ruin it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason the posting faries stripped out my RantOn &amp; RantOff &#039;tags&#039; to show a personal bias here, so apologies if that looked like it was more an issue for me &amp; my therapist ;-)

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s tarnishing the mobile industry - this voting could have been done via other means - it&#039;s our fault for being too damn convenient. I think the clear message is that it&#039;s the dodgy middlemen, not the &#039;mobile&#039; industry.

On the flipside, it&#039;s doing wonders for the credibility of the BBC&#039;s independant journalistic structure and right to criticise internally. Long live the Beeb. Could anyone see Fox News or any other Evil Empire conglomerate having its own internal journos expose something like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason the posting faries stripped out my RantOn &amp; RantOff &#8216;tags&#8217; to show a personal bias here, so apologies if that looked like it was more an issue for me &amp; my therapist <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s tarnishing the mobile industry &#8211; this voting could have been done via other means &#8211; it&#8217;s our fault for being too damn convenient. I think the clear message is that it&#8217;s the dodgy middlemen, not the &#8216;mobile&#8217; industry.</p>
<p>On the flipside, it&#8217;s doing wonders for the credibility of the BBC&#8217;s independant journalistic structure and right to criticise internally. Long live the Beeb. Could anyone see Fox News or any other Evil Empire conglomerate having its own internal journos expose something like this?</p>
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		<title>By: ewan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t do anything for the public reputation of the industry though :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t do anything for the public reputation of the industry though <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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Like smoking, gambling, paying for bottled water and so on, this looks like yet another tax on stupidity to me...

Maybe that&#039;s being a bit harsh - your old nan may be addicted to GMTV &#039;quizzes&#039; and she&#039;s patently not stupid, because that would make you a second-generation quiz-participant. Maybe you are from a long line of quiz participants, who knows?

The media will spend weeks in a lather over this matter, which is really of no import at all in the wider picture, without ever actually asking &#039;had the shortlist stayed open longer, how much more likely would  be to win the prize&#039;?

My guess? maybe they would have gone from one-in-a-million to one-in-half-a-million. Odds which, if you applied the same expectation of &#039;winning&#039;  to real-world likelihoods like getting hit by a bus or a falling piano, would see you never leaving your house. 

England, IMHO, is sleepwalking toward Pete Townshend&#039;s vision of &#039;GridLife&#039; , where you all sit in your GridSuits and have experiences piped to you in the comfort of your own homes. Never venture out, never take risk, never need to exert yourself. 

I may be in the mobile industry, but SMS voting as Mogadon for the masses? Let&#039;s not kid ourselves that this is actually important.



Cheers,

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like smoking, gambling, paying for bottled water and so on, this looks like yet another tax on stupidity to me&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s being a bit harsh &#8211; your old nan may be addicted to GMTV &#8216;quizzes&#8217; and she&#8217;s patently not stupid, because that would make you a second-generation quiz-participant. Maybe you are from a long line of quiz participants, who knows?</p>
<p>The media will spend weeks in a lather over this matter, which is really of no import at all in the wider picture, without ever actually asking &#8216;had the shortlist stayed open longer, how much more likely would  be to win the prize&#8217;?</p>
<p>My guess? maybe they would have gone from one-in-a-million to one-in-half-a-million. Odds which, if you applied the same expectation of &#8216;winning&#8217;  to real-world likelihoods like getting hit by a bus or a falling piano, would see you never leaving your house. </p>
<p>England, IMHO, is sleepwalking toward Pete Townshend&#8217;s vision of &#8216;GridLife&#8217; , where you all sit in your GridSuits and have experiences piped to you in the comfort of your own homes. Never venture out, never take risk, never need to exert yourself. </p>
<p>I may be in the mobile industry, but SMS voting as Mogadon for the masses? Let&#8217;s not kid ourselves that this is actually important.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumours rumours.. word on the street from a couple of people I know in the TV biz is that Channel 4 have been investigating this too. Their &#039;Dispatches&#039; programme is due to lift the lid on this and more - and apparently makes Panorama&#039;s allegations look like a tea party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumours rumours.. word on the street from a couple of people I know in the TV biz is that Channel 4 have been investigating this too. Their &#8216;Dispatches&#8217; programme is due to lift the lid on this and more &#8211; and apparently makes Panorama&#8217;s allegations look like a tea party.</p>
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		<title>By: steve procter</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve procter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If what Mark Nuttall is alleged by Panorama to have written to staff in an email in 2003 turns out to be true and proven then... well I am no lawyer or expert on the law of fraud but it is all very potentially damaging...

Part of me wants this to all go away quietly before damage is done for us all in this industry. But then we also have to route out the bad apples and in this day and age I&#039;m afraid that can only be done openly and publicly.

oh sigh.....

steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If what Mark Nuttall is alleged by Panorama to have written to staff in an email in 2003 turns out to be true and proven then&#8230; well I am no lawyer or expert on the law of fraud but it is all very potentially damaging&#8230;</p>
<p>Part of me wants this to all go away quietly before damage is done for us all in this industry. But then we also have to route out the bad apples and in this day and age I&#8217;m afraid that can only be done openly and publicly.</p>
<p>oh sigh&#8230;..</p>
<p>steve</p>
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