Comments on: Orange winds everyone up with it’s shite ‘unlimited-but-sort-of-not’ data rubbish http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:26:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tim http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html/comment-page-1#comment-55408 Tim Thu, 31 May 2007 19:49:40 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html#comment-55408 Hi Btw Orange have a better service than shozu to upload to flickr for only £4 a month, on my N95 unlimited upload, and i upload about 300 pics a month using a 5 MP camera Tim Hi

Btw Orange have a better service than shozu to upload to flickr for only £4 a month, on my N95 unlimited upload, and i upload about 300 pics a month using a 5 MP camera

Tim

]]> By: Zahid http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html/comment-page-1#comment-50772 Zahid Mon, 14 May 2007 14:28:47 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html#comment-50772 I found this comment on zdnet: http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,1000001161,39286970-39001101c-20085043o,00.htm Quote: "if users want to use VoIP and IM they can do so" (!), but the operator is discouraging them from doing so due to the usual "customer experience" malarkey. So do that mean that if I use the java gmail app, shozu etc I will be flat rate then? I found this comment on zdnet:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,1000001161,39286970-39001101c-20085043o,00.htm

Quote:

“if users want to use VoIP and IM they can do so” (!), but the operator is discouraging them from doing so due to the usual “customer experience” malarkey.

So do that mean that if I use the java gmail app, shozu etc I will be flat rate then?

]]> By: ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html/comment-page-1#comment-49471 ewan Wed, 09 May 2007 08:46:24 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html#comment-49471 I'm not blaming anyone alasdair -- I'm just saying it's absolutely ridiculous behaviour. I've seen genuine panic in the eyes of some operator executives when pondering the 'we will have to move to flat rate at some point' discussion. That's where the expectation lies. However, if they'd handled their pricing strategy in a different way, for example, £3 for the first meg, £2 for the next 9 meg, then £0.15 for every subsequent meg, I think I'd have signed up for it. That way the operators would have have retained a degree of step-up revenue. I’m not blaming anyone alasdair — I’m just saying it’s absolutely ridiculous behaviour.

I’ve seen genuine panic in the eyes of some operator executives when pondering the ‘we will have to move to flat rate at some point’ discussion. That’s where the expectation lies. However, if they’d handled their pricing strategy in a different way, for example, £3 for the first meg, £2 for the next 9 meg, then £0.15 for every subsequent meg, I think I’d have signed up for it. That way the operators would have have retained a degree of step-up revenue.

]]> By: alasdair http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html/comment-page-1#comment-49460 alasdair Wed, 09 May 2007 07:45:26 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html#comment-49460 this phrase is very disingenuos : An Orange spokesperson said: “The bundled prices won’t include VoIP or IM. We advise against using [those services] as yet.” 'we advise against' actually means we'll do everything in our power to prevent you circumventing our revenue model. I hate this kind of thing - companies must start to treat their customers and potential customers like adults ffs this phrase is very disingenuos : An Orange spokesperson said: “The bundled prices won’t include VoIP or IM. We advise against using [those services] as yet.”

‘we advise against’ actually means we’ll do everything in our power to prevent you circumventing our revenue model.

I hate this kind of thing – companies must start to treat their customers and potential customers like adults ffs

]]> By: alasdair http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html/comment-page-1#comment-49458 alasdair Wed, 09 May 2007 07:41:36 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/2007/05/orange_winds_everyone_up_with_its_shite_unlimited-but-sort-of-not_data_rubbish.html#comment-49458 hang on a tick - T-Mobile only allow you to use VoIP ( and maybe IM) on their £45 pcm unlimited* (read 30 Gbyte tariff) - three only allow you 154 Mbytes of roaming data (remember when you use 2G you're roaming with 3) - IMHO all the offerings from all the operators are currently flawed. All the Operators are papping themselves desperatly trying to make back the 3G licensing money from us poor early adopters before they are forced to offer proper flat rate pricing across the board. (Ironic as orange pioneered bundled tariffs which were seen as such a threat to their revenue base by Cellnet & Vodafone way back when) You really can't blame a telephone operator for trying to minimise the erosion of their traditional revenues whilst they frantically think of ways to make money in the new climate hang on a tick – T-Mobile only allow you to use VoIP ( and maybe IM) on their £45 pcm unlimited* (read 30 Gbyte tariff) – three only allow you 154 Mbytes of roaming data (remember when you use 2G you’re roaming with 3) – IMHO all the offerings from all the operators are currently flawed.

All the Operators are papping themselves desperatly trying to make back the 3G licensing money from us poor early adopters before they are forced to offer proper flat rate pricing across the board. (Ironic as orange pioneered bundled tariffs which were seen as such a threat to their revenue base by Cellnet & Vodafone way back when)

You really can’t blame a telephone operator for trying to minimise the erosion of their traditional revenues whilst they frantically think of ways to make money in the new climate

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