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	<title>Comments on: Cabwise &#8211; Don&#8217;t take an illegal cab home</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-244791</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a...&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 Network&lt;br&gt;The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)</p>
<p>However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network &#8211; <a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a&#8230;</a> :</p>
<p>Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.</p>
<p>3 Network<br />The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-235471</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a...&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 Network&lt;br&gt;The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)</p>
<p>However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network &#8211; <a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks" rel="nofollow">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a&#8230;</a> :</p>
<p>Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.</p>
<p>3 Network<br />The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-230379</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks&quot;&gt;http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a...&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3 Network&lt;br&gt;The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabwise now works with all the networks (including Virgin)</p>
<p>However, you have to do something slightly different if you are a 3 customer or on an overseas network &#8211; <a href="http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.aspx#networks">http://www.tfl.gov.uk/termsandconditions/7163.a&#8230;</a> :</p>
<p>Overseas and 3 networks can now also access the Cabwise service by texting their location (street name and partial postcode e.g. Victoria St SW1) to the number +44 07797 800 000.</p>
<p>3 Network<br />The cost of this service will be 35p per enquiry plus your standard text message rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Loulou</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93347</link>
		<dc:creator>Loulou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo boys boys boys, all this fuss over a simple handset lookup! 

Yes, it&#039;s LBS. Hence it&#039;s not available to Three and Virgin. 

Steve hon, not all clients do what we tell them over pricing regs, I  haven&#039;t had a run of clients _ever_ whom have all played industry ball despite threats to cut them off or stick their campaigns where the sun doesn&#039;t shine.  I bet Nick hasn&#039;t either. And I doubt, until ICSTIS or whatever they call themselves today poke you, you have noticed either. It&#039;s the way of the world, and we can tell them how to advertise until we&#039;re blue in the face, but once their publicity is out, it&#039;s out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo boys boys boys, all this fuss over a simple handset lookup! </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s LBS. Hence it&#8217;s not available to Three and Virgin. </p>
<p>Steve hon, not all clients do what we tell them over pricing regs, I  haven&#8217;t had a run of clients _ever_ whom have all played industry ball despite threats to cut them off or stick their campaigns where the sun doesn&#8217;t shine.  I bet Nick hasn&#8217;t either. And I doubt, until ICSTIS or whatever they call themselves today poke you, you have noticed either. It&#8217;s the way of the world, and we can tell them how to advertise until we&#8217;re blue in the face, but once their publicity is out, it&#8217;s out.</p>
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		<title>By: njar</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93058</link>
		<dc:creator>njar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol..  I think our banter is always healthy, and I never take any of it very personally!

I totally agree by the way..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol..  I think our banter is always healthy, and I never take any of it very personally!</p>
<p>I totally agree by the way..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Procter</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93045</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Procter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - ;-)

njar - Sorry, I just get veryfrustrated at seeing services where a lack of care has been applied to industry regulations; and it makes me feel why on earth should companies like mine and yours spend so much effort on hand holding clients through regulations when others steam in and ignore it all.  Just makes you throw your hands up in despair...hence the frustrated posts!! ;-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>njar &#8211; Sorry, I just get veryfrustrated at seeing services where a lack of care has been applied to industry regulations; and it makes me feel why on earth should companies like mine and yours spend so much effort on hand holding clients through regulations when others steam in and ignore it all.  Just makes you throw your hands up in despair&#8230;hence the frustrated posts!! ;-(</p>
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		<title>By: njar</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93030</link>
		<dc:creator>njar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s LBS Steve, because when I texted in I got back numbers for Taxi companies in Chiswick!  

In terms of whether this advert mentions that the handset will be looked up, I was kind of assuming it&#039;d be where the SMS pricing info was.  If it isn&#039;t on there at all, then it&#039;s not exactly best practice, but at the same time the LBS Code of Practice is poorly written and open to differing interpretations.  In an ideal world they should mention this.  Some carriers would care, others wouldn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s LBS Steve, because when I texted in I got back numbers for Taxi companies in Chiswick!  </p>
<p>In terms of whether this advert mentions that the handset will be looked up, I was kind of assuming it&#8217;d be where the SMS pricing info was.  If it isn&#8217;t on there at all, then it&#8217;s not exactly best practice, but at the same time the LBS Code of Practice is poorly written and open to differing interpretations.  In an ideal world they should mention this.  Some carriers would care, others wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93028</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve and njar - handbags at ten paces.. ;) 

It&#039;s definitely on the other ads, I remember seeing it in the past few days and thinking 35p was a strange rate to charge. Ok so maybe not strange, but more used to seeing 25p, 50p, Â£1, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve and njar &#8211; handbags at ten paces.. <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely on the other ads, I remember seeing it in the past few days and thinking 35p was a strange rate to charge. Ok so maybe not strange, but more used to seeing 25p, 50p, Â£1, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, I&#039;ll go and take another photo and check to see if the terms &amp; conditions are displayed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, I&#8217;ll go and take another photo and check to see if the terms &#038; conditions are displayed!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Procter</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-93017</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Procter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you know that it is LBS how njar?  Oh of course, from the bit of text on the poster that says &quot;by using this service you agree for us to look up your location&quot;.  That&#039;ll be the text right next to the text that says &quot;this service costs 35p&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you know that it is LBS how njar?  Oh of course, from the bit of text on the poster that says &#8220;by using this service you agree for us to look up your location&#8221;.  That&#8217;ll be the text right next to the text that says &#8220;this service costs 35p&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: njar</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-92995</link>
		<dc:creator>njar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex,

Yep well I would have hoped they&#039;d have the pricing sorted out.  At 35p plus network charges it seems like a really good value proposition.

Yeah O2 still not playing ball.  A large large shame as their reluctance/inability to launch has held back a raft of innovation and some would-be great mobile value propositions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex,</p>
<p>Yep well I would have hoped they&#8217;d have the pricing sorted out.  At 35p plus network charges it seems like a really good value proposition.</p>
<p>Yeah O2 still not playing ball.  A large large shame as their reluctance/inability to launch has held back a raft of innovation and some would-be great mobile value propositions.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-92994</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ njar, I&#039;ve definitely seen the pricing on one of their other ads in the past few days whilst in the West End, so think they&#039;re generally compliant. Re: voice and video combined codes, is that still rumbling on? Remember writing a blog entry about it a while back.. Innovation? We&#039;ve heard of it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ njar, I&#8217;ve definitely seen the pricing on one of their other ads in the past few days whilst in the West End, so think they&#8217;re generally compliant. Re: voice and video combined codes, is that still rumbling on? Remember writing a blog entry about it a while back.. Innovation? We&#8217;ve heard of it <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: njar</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-92989</link>
		<dc:creator>njar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The *only* issue here is that it appears from the picture of the advert that there is no visible pricing on display.  Ewan, was pricing at the bottom of the advert?

Will, Steve, I&#039;m surprised by your comments; as &#039;mobile experts&#039; you should be able to tell that this is a LBS service, and you&#039;ll obviously both be aware that neither Virgin or Three offer LBS as a wholesale offering.  A quick check on the Three end user site confirms the code is live on Three and registered to Kizoom, and it&#039;s possible although I&#039;ve not tried it, that they return a message stating you can&#039;t use the service if a user texts in from Three.  The code is unlikely to be live on Virgin given the inability to differentiate between Virgin and T-Mobile on an inbound SMS.  

If their pricing is not clear, then this should be cut off straight away, If the taxi info is rubbish then fair enough comment, but having just tried the service out (and without calling the cab numbers) it worked really well.

Ewan if you want comments, you could ask Thee and Virgin why they don&#039;t offer LBS.  While you&#039;re at it could you ask O2 why they don&#039;t offer Voice and Video codes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The *only* issue here is that it appears from the picture of the advert that there is no visible pricing on display.  Ewan, was pricing at the bottom of the advert?</p>
<p>Will, Steve, I&#8217;m surprised by your comments; as &#8216;mobile experts&#8217; you should be able to tell that this is a LBS service, and you&#8217;ll obviously both be aware that neither Virgin or Three offer LBS as a wholesale offering.  A quick check on the Three end user site confirms the code is live on Three and registered to Kizoom, and it&#8217;s possible although I&#8217;ve not tried it, that they return a message stating you can&#8217;t use the service if a user texts in from Three.  The code is unlikely to be live on Virgin given the inability to differentiate between Virgin and T-Mobile on an inbound SMS.  </p>
<p>If their pricing is not clear, then this should be cut off straight away, If the taxi info is rubbish then fair enough comment, but having just tried the service out (and without calling the cab numbers) it worked really well.</p>
<p>Ewan if you want comments, you could ask Thee and Virgin why they don&#8217;t offer LBS.  While you&#8217;re at it could you ask O2 why they don&#8217;t offer Voice and Video codes <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-92977</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it&#039;s mblox and kizoom that I should be speaking to then?  I&#039;ll ask them for a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s mblox and kizoom that I should be speaking to then?  I&#8217;ll ask them for a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Procter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Procter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I publically challenge londongov and the provider of this service to explain why Virgin and Three taxi users are not being offered the same service that might improve their safety?

I would also ask them to explain why there is no information on that bus-stop poster regarding the premium rate cost of the service or the fact that Virgin/Three users are excluded (and indeed if they try the service at a time of night when they are worried for their safety, that it will appear to them that the service has failed and let them down)?

steve/itagg.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I publically challenge londongov and the provider of this service to explain why Virgin and Three taxi users are not being offered the same service that might improve their safety?</p>
<p>I would also ask them to explain why there is no information on that bus-stop poster regarding the premium rate cost of the service or the fact that Virgin/Three users are excluded (and indeed if they try the service at a time of night when they are worried for their safety, that it will appear to them that the service has failed and let them down)?</p>
<p>steve/itagg.com</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*cough*mblox*cough*kizoom*cough</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Procter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Procter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>utter utter crap.  not the service concept which is a great use of mobile technology.  But the fact that our local government is too tight fisted to pay a decent sms aggregator to add Three and Virgin.  In fact this is so utterly unbelievable that I cannot quite believe it.  When keywords on shortcodes which work across ALL UK networks are available for Â£25 per year there is absolutely no reasaon why this situation should exist.

Will the mobile company providing this please stand up and explain...

steve/itagg.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>utter utter crap.  not the service concept which is a great use of mobile technology.  But the fact that our local government is too tight fisted to pay a decent sms aggregator to add Three and Virgin.  In fact this is so utterly unbelievable that I cannot quite believe it.  When keywords on shortcodes which work across ALL UK networks are available for Â£25 per year there is absolutely no reasaon why this situation should exist.</p>
<p>Will the mobile company providing this please stand up and explain&#8230;</p>
<p>steve/itagg.com</p>
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		<title>By: Will Neale</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/08/cabwise_-_dont_take_an_illegal_cab_home.html/comment-page-1#comment-92254</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Neale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it not available on Virgin or 3? Premium SMS exists on both these networks, so there is no excuse.  Schemes like this require ubiquity to succeed.

This service has been around for a while - and the problem with it a while ago is that it basically didn&#039;t work... no cabs ever responded.  Have they overcome this?  Has anyone tried it recently?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it not available on Virgin or 3? Premium SMS exists on both these networks, so there is no excuse.  Schemes like this require ubiquity to succeed.</p>
<p>This service has been around for a while &#8211; and the problem with it a while ago is that it basically didn&#8217;t work&#8230; no cabs ever responded.  Have they overcome this?  Has anyone tried it recently?</p>
<p>Will</p>
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