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		<title>By: Maciek</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/10/americas_dire_handset_marketplace_revisited.html/comment-page-1#comment-137753</link>
		<dc:creator>Maciek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ewan,

It&#039;s really sad that people int he US are so limited in their knowledge.  at&amp;t and T-Mobile at the beginning were marketing their technologies (gprs and sms) under their own brand names.  T-Mobile was branding sms as ping-pong messagig while at&amp;t used some other name.  People were pushed into the stupidity and no-knowledge corner and sort of stayed that way.  at&amp;t still uses Smart chip description for sim card.  Another thing here is that the general population does not understand the idea of &quot;unlocked device&quot;.  It also doesn&#039;t help that the customer service people are just as uneducated as the customers.  A few years ago a friend of mine was going to travel to Poland to visit his boyfriend.  He uses Sprint network (CDMA) so he went to sprint store and asked if he can use his phone to call IN POLAND.  The rep (chap :-)  ) at the store said &quot;Of course but you need to buy an international plan for $10&quot;.  So my friend instead of consulting with the geek (ME) said he will b able to use it in Poland.  I kept pounding into his head that it WILL NOT work there due to the network type.  He did not let this idea get into his head because Mr.  Sprint told him it would.... Of course a month later he told me his phone did not work there.  This is also the kind of person that thought he could make international phone calls from his phone for the said $10 extra... Guess what....one month later his bill came in...$1800.  I have to admit my friend is a one of a kind (compared to me) but this &quot;One of a kind&quot; is the same way most americans think.  I have an aversion to Motorola phones so I jokingly say &quot;Friends don&#039;t let friends get RAZR phones&quot;.  When my boss&#039; husband wanted a new phone, I told him to STAY AWAY from Razr.  He did not listen because the phone was SO COOL.  I told him this is a 5 year old phone but he still got it...only to bitch three months later that the phone is a piece of crap.  Networks make a giant mistake here by using some crappy branded descriptions for the services and on top of that hire a bunch of people who think they are Steve Jobs (translation - God&#039;s gift to the world) because they work at a mobile shop yet are just a basic cookie cutter sales people who lack their own knowledge and only follow the written agenta such as...Go to paragraph 1.  If Q=1, to to paragraph C, If Q=2, skip to the end kind of approach.  I&#039;m glad I&#039;m a part of T-Mobile because their reps seem to have more knowledge in general about the worldwide networks (GSM frequencies, CDMA, UMTS etc etc).  You can only depend on yourself and your friends which is a sad state of living but until some provider breaks the rules, we&#039;ll be stuck in this Alcatraz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewan,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really sad that people int he US are so limited in their knowledge.  at&amp;t and T-Mobile at the beginning were marketing their technologies (gprs and sms) under their own brand names.  T-Mobile was branding sms as ping-pong messagig while at&amp;t used some other name.  People were pushed into the stupidity and no-knowledge corner and sort of stayed that way.  at&amp;t still uses Smart chip description for sim card.  Another thing here is that the general population does not understand the idea of &#8220;unlocked device&#8221;.  It also doesn&#8217;t help that the customer service people are just as uneducated as the customers.  A few years ago a friend of mine was going to travel to Poland to visit his boyfriend.  He uses Sprint network (CDMA) so he went to sprint store and asked if he can use his phone to call IN POLAND.  The rep (chap <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   ) at the store said &#8220;Of course but you need to buy an international plan for $10&#8243;.  So my friend instead of consulting with the geek (ME) said he will b able to use it in Poland.  I kept pounding into his head that it WILL NOT work there due to the network type.  He did not let this idea get into his head because Mr.  Sprint told him it would&#8230;. Of course a month later he told me his phone did not work there.  This is also the kind of person that thought he could make international phone calls from his phone for the said $10 extra&#8230; Guess what&#8230;.one month later his bill came in&#8230;$1800.  I have to admit my friend is a one of a kind (compared to me) but this &#8220;One of a kind&#8221; is the same way most americans think.  I have an aversion to Motorola phones so I jokingly say &#8220;Friends don&#8217;t let friends get RAZR phones&#8221;.  When my boss&#8217; husband wanted a new phone, I told him to STAY AWAY from Razr.  He did not listen because the phone was SO COOL.  I told him this is a 5 year old phone but he still got it&#8230;only to bitch three months later that the phone is a piece of crap.  Networks make a giant mistake here by using some crappy branded descriptions for the services and on top of that hire a bunch of people who think they are Steve Jobs (translation &#8211; God&#8217;s gift to the world) because they work at a mobile shop yet are just a basic cookie cutter sales people who lack their own knowledge and only follow the written agenta such as&#8230;Go to paragraph 1.  If Q=1, to to paragraph C, If Q=2, skip to the end kind of approach.  I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m a part of T-Mobile because their reps seem to have more knowledge in general about the worldwide networks (GSM frequencies, CDMA, UMTS etc etc).  You can only depend on yourself and your friends which is a sad state of living but until some provider breaks the rules, we&#8217;ll be stuck in this Alcatraz</p>
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		<title>By: Krystal</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/10/americas_dire_handset_marketplace_revisited.html/comment-page-1#comment-132273</link>
		<dc:creator>Krystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Canadaland there will usually be at least one store/kiosk for each of the major carriers in every mall, along with the generic Wireless Wave. Even Walmart has its own kiosk in their stores with a &quot;Cellular expert&quot; selling you the major brands. You know, the top of the line stuff like the RAZR :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Canadaland there will usually be at least one store/kiosk for each of the major carriers in every mall, along with the generic Wireless Wave. Even Walmart has its own kiosk in their stores with a &#8220;Cellular expert&#8221; selling you the major brands. You know, the top of the line stuff like the RAZR <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/10/americas_dire_handset_marketplace_revisited.html/comment-page-1#comment-132256</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having lived on both coasts in America, in both urban and suburban settings, I find this article hilarious.  LA is really its own planet (and that is not a bad thing), but there is nothing typical about any part of LA.  Most indoor malls in suburbia will have every major cellular kiosk within: AT&amp;T, Verizon, and Sprint.  They will all sell inaccuracies and a long contract to anyone who enters or stops by.  In urban areas, I have noticed that Apple stores will hang out with retail clothing as opposed to technology, but in the suburbs, they all live together in one big mall.  
The problem with Americans owning crap handsets is partly because each major carrier has a limited amount of phones available, none of which are all that cool (the phones offered in each area of America are limited as well, if you go to one of their websites you will have to enter a zip code just to view phones).  Add to that the fact that we have to get super-long contracts to get a reasonable price on airtime, and you will see a lot of people with old phones.  2/3 of the major networks are still not on SIM cards, so swapping out your phone for a cooler one is also infrequent.  
I research phones and plans online.  I would rather not speak to a live employee, they are rigorously schooled on their own plans and not much else.  I only go to cell stores to actually touch the phone, and to buy it if I am in a real hurry to get it, but without any conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived on both coasts in America, in both urban and suburban settings, I find this article hilarious.  LA is really its own planet (and that is not a bad thing), but there is nothing typical about any part of LA.  Most indoor malls in suburbia will have every major cellular kiosk within: AT&amp;T, Verizon, and Sprint.  They will all sell inaccuracies and a long contract to anyone who enters or stops by.  In urban areas, I have noticed that Apple stores will hang out with retail clothing as opposed to technology, but in the suburbs, they all live together in one big mall.<br />
The problem with Americans owning crap handsets is partly because each major carrier has a limited amount of phones available, none of which are all that cool (the phones offered in each area of America are limited as well, if you go to one of their websites you will have to enter a zip code just to view phones).  Add to that the fact that we have to get super-long contracts to get a reasonable price on airtime, and you will see a lot of people with old phones.  2/3 of the major networks are still not on SIM cards, so swapping out your phone for a cooler one is also infrequent.<br />
I research phones and plans online.  I would rather not speak to a live employee, they are rigorously schooled on their own plans and not much else.  I only go to cell stores to actually touch the phone, and to buy it if I am in a real hurry to get it, but without any conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricky</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/10/americas_dire_handset_marketplace_revisited.html/comment-page-1#comment-132170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ewan, welcome to what we live in. In fact, just as an example, I work at a cell phone kiosk part-time. The other day I was helping a man pick out new phones, and I knew he didn&#039;t want to spend alot of money. We have the original RAZR in magenta for free, or the V3t (which has 1mp cam, memory card slot, etc) for $10. That seems like a no-brainer, right? Wrong. His wife INSISTED on the V3 simply because it was pink. Seriously? Stuff like that just drives me nuts. I&#039;ve started describing the V3 as &quot;That one is the same RAZR that came out 7 years ago, just in a different color. That&#039;s why it&#039;s free.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ewan, welcome to what we live in. In fact, just as an example, I work at a cell phone kiosk part-time. The other day I was helping a man pick out new phones, and I knew he didn&#8217;t want to spend alot of money. We have the original RAZR in magenta for free, or the V3t (which has 1mp cam, memory card slot, etc) for $10. That seems like a no-brainer, right? Wrong. His wife INSISTED on the V3 simply because it was pink. Seriously? Stuff like that just drives me nuts. I&#8217;ve started describing the V3 as &#8220;That one is the same RAZR that came out 7 years ago, just in a different color. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s free.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: HeavyLight</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2007/10/americas_dire_handset_marketplace_revisited.html/comment-page-1#comment-132121</link>
		<dc:creator>HeavyLight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you do dare to get chatting with random US normobs, show them something pretty like Jaiku or Agile on your E65?
I&#039;d love to hear their reaction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do dare to get chatting with random US normobs, show them something pretty like Jaiku or Agile on your E65?<br />
I&#8217;d love to hear their reaction&#8230;</p>
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