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		<title>By: ADSL Viettel</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/fiercewireless_apple_drops_4g_iphone_model.html/comment-page-1#comment-248479</link>
		<dc:creator>ADSL Viettel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks man, just what I was looking for. Thanks so muchÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks man, just what I was looking for. Thanks so muchÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</p>
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		<title>By: James.   Braselton</title>
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		<dc:creator>James.   Braselton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.  There. I. Have. The. Original.  iPhone.  I. Saw. Some. Data.  On.  The. 4.  Tv.  Gen. iPhone.  32. Gb. And. Internet.  Speeds. Of.  150.  Mb. Per.  Second</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.  There. I. Have. The. Original.  iPhone.  I. Saw. Some. Data.  On.  The. 4.  Tv.  Gen. iPhone.  32. Gb. And. Internet.  Speeds. Of.  150.  Mb. Per.  Second</p>
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		<title>By: James.   Braselton</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/fiercewireless_apple_drops_4g_iphone_model.html/comment-page-1#comment-236764</link>
		<dc:creator>James.   Braselton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.  There. I. Have. The. Original.  iPhone.  I. Saw. Some. Data.  On.  The. 4.  Tv.  Gen. iPhone.  32. Gb. And. Internet.  Speeds. Of.  150.  Mb. Per.  Second</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.  There. I. Have. The. Original.  iPhone.  I. Saw. Some. Data.  On.  The. 4.  Tv.  Gen. iPhone.  32. Gb. And. Internet.  Speeds. Of.  150.  Mb. Per.  Second</p>
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		<title>By: contentforall</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/fiercewireless_apple_drops_4g_iphone_model.html/comment-page-1#comment-230615</link>
		<dc:creator>contentforall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Terence,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, 2003, but it only became mainstream in the last year or so (VF have only just moved HSPA beyond the M25), and still represents a fraction of overall connections. While I hope that LTE will deploy quicker than UMTS did due to a lot of future-proofing in BTS design, I&#039;m not holding my breath. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do hold that we can&#039;t really expect customers to pay any more. OFCOM&#039;s William Webb wrote a paper on consumer propensity to increase telecoms spend - and it was measured in a few percent. With just about every essential commodity - carbohydrates, petrochemicals, cotton - becoming more expensive, paying more for a snappier wireless connection will be waaaaaay down Maslow&#039;s hierarchy of needs for most consumers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not sure the DSL vs dialup argument stands. DSL delivered a much-improved experience and enabled many core apps to work better than over dialup. But the step from 3.5G to 4G? hmmmm.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The devices will not get bigger, so the idea that something killer will come along to take advantage of a 100MBps connection vs the 2MBps avg now is pretty sketchy. 100MBps to the home will enable HD VoD, which will change viewing patterns the way iPlayer is now. But that&#039;s to a big screen. We can deliver 30FPS QVGA video now (some MNO&#039;s even brand this &#039;mobile HD&#039; :-/ ) - and no-one wants to watch it, let alone pay more for it! We can stream audio for Africa, yet everyone is sideloading like crazy on dedicated devices. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All-IP will be good for MNO&#039;s, but a voice call over IP with QoS delivers the same experience as one over CS. Remembering, 3G calls *ARE* IP now, in that it&#039;s all packets anyway, just in a proprietry format, not IPv6.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Terence,</p>
<p>Yes, 2003, but it only became mainstream in the last year or so (VF have only just moved HSPA beyond the M25), and still represents a fraction of overall connections. While I hope that LTE will deploy quicker than UMTS did due to a lot of future-proofing in BTS design, I&#39;m not holding my breath. </p>
<p>I do hold that we can&#39;t really expect customers to pay any more. OFCOM&#39;s William Webb wrote a paper on consumer propensity to increase telecoms spend &#8211; and it was measured in a few percent. With just about every essential commodity &#8211; carbohydrates, petrochemicals, cotton &#8211; becoming more expensive, paying more for a snappier wireless connection will be waaaaaay down Maslow&#39;s hierarchy of needs for most consumers. </p>
<p>I&#39;m not sure the DSL vs dialup argument stands. DSL delivered a much-improved experience and enabled many core apps to work better than over dialup. But the step from 3.5G to 4G? hmmmm&#8230;..</p>
<p>The devices will not get bigger, so the idea that something killer will come along to take advantage of a 100MBps connection vs the 2MBps avg now is pretty sketchy. 100MBps to the home will enable HD VoD, which will change viewing patterns the way iPlayer is now. But that&#39;s to a big screen. We can deliver 30FPS QVGA video now (some MNO&#39;s even brand this &#39;mobile HD&#39; :-/ ) &#8211; and no-one wants to watch it, let alone pay more for it! We can stream audio for Africa, yet everyone is sideloading like crazy on dedicated devices. </p>
<p>All-IP will be good for MNO&#39;s, but a voice call over IP with QoS delivers the same experience as one over CS. Remembering, 3G calls *ARE* IP now, in that it&#39;s all packets anyway, just in a proprietry format, not IPv6.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceEden</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceEden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WiMax is not 4G.  But &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution&quot;&gt;LTE&lt;/a&gt; is.&lt;br&gt;UMTS was finalised in 2000 and started to be deployed in 2003 - so it&#039;s not that much of a lead time.  The main issue will be spectrum reuse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, saying that you can&#039;t charge customers more for telecoms is like saying that there&#039;s no point deploying DSL because the dial-up market is in a price war.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moving to an all IP network has some advantages for customs and a lot of advantages for MNOs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, you&#039;re right, WiMax is a dead duck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiMax is not 4G.  But <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution">LTE</a> is.<br />UMTS was finalised in 2000 and started to be deployed in 2003 &#8211; so it&#39;s not that much of a lead time.  The main issue will be spectrum reuse.</p>
<p>However, saying that you can&#39;t charge customers more for telecoms is like saying that there&#39;s no point deploying DSL because the dial-up market is in a price war.</p>
<p>Moving to an all IP network has some advantages for customs and a lot of advantages for MNOs.</p>
<p>But, you&#39;re right, WiMax is a dead duck.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GAAAAA!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;gently hijacks thread for personal soapbox&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;sound of colours being affixed to wind-based nautical propulsion system&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4G does not yet exist. Some candidates for 4G are in the lab. It is not yet defined by the ITU. No-one sells 4G. XG is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G. 802.11n is not 4G. 4G spectrum is not defined. Anywhere.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When 4G is deployable, the overwhelmingly obvious bet is that it will be something that MNO&#039;s can transition their billions of 3G users to gently, gradually, using much of the existing infrastructure. No-one is going to fund a completely new network. No-one is going to be able to charge the customer any more than they can now for 4G. We have reached the limit of mass-market disposable income for telecommunications. Food/shelter/clothing/fuel are all more important. Race you to the bottom.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4G will not exist for several years to come, at least. Global standards and vendors take a looooong time to get their acts together. Nothing is real until your friendly MNO ponys up several billion to actually build it in your neighbourhood.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VC types, repeat after me: WiMax is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;back into soapbox&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GAAAAA!</p>
<p>&lt;gently hijacks thread for personal soapbox&gt; </p>
<p>&lt;sound of colours being affixed to wind-based nautical propulsion system&gt;</p>
<p>4G does not yet exist. Some candidates for 4G are in the lab. It is not yet defined by the ITU. No-one sells 4G. XG is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G. 802.11n is not 4G. 4G spectrum is not defined. Anywhere.</p>
<p>When 4G is deployable, the overwhelmingly obvious bet is that it will be something that MNO&#39;s can transition their billions of 3G users to gently, gradually, using much of the existing infrastructure. No-one is going to fund a completely new network. No-one is going to be able to charge the customer any more than they can now for 4G. We have reached the limit of mass-market disposable income for telecommunications. Food/shelter/clothing/fuel are all more important. Race you to the bottom.</p>
<p>4G will not exist for several years to come, at least. Global standards and vendors take a looooong time to get their acts together. Nothing is real until your friendly MNO ponys up several billion to actually build it in your neighbourhood.</p>
<p>VC types, repeat after me: WiMax is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G. WiMax is not 4G&#8230;..</p>
<p>&lt;back into soapbox&gt;</p>
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