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	<title>Comments on: UK operators worried about rumoured WiMax entrant</title>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/uk_operators_worried_about_rumoured_wimax_entrant.html/comment-page-1#comment-241701</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pah.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.6GHz? MNO&#039;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The UK&#039;s biggest MNO&#039;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#039;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#039;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, let&#039;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope you&#039;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#039;ve just spec&#039;d.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But of course this won&#039;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#039;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pah.</p>
<p>2.6GHz? MNO&#39;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?</p>
<p>Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?</p>
<p> The UK&#39;s biggest MNO&#39;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#39;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#39;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. </p>
<p>OK, let&#39;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand&#8230;.</p>
<p>Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.</p>
<p>Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.</p>
<p>Hope you&#39;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#39;ve just spec&#39;d.</p>
<p>Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.</p>
<p>But of course this won&#39;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#39;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.</p>
<p>/m</p>
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		<title>By: SteveRowlands</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/uk_operators_worried_about_rumoured_wimax_entrant.html/comment-page-1#comment-241700</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveRowlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why they are even bothering to try and delay the auction.  I&#039;m sure the government will do a pretty good job of plucking the whole thing up anyway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WiMax is the new &#039;Edge&#039; isn&#039;t it?  Out of date, before it even arrives......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure why they are even bothering to try and delay the auction.  I&#39;m sure the government will do a pretty good job of plucking the whole thing up anyway.</p>
<p>WiMax is the new &#39;Edge&#39; isn&#39;t it?  Out of date, before it even arrives&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/uk_operators_worried_about_rumoured_wimax_entrant.html/comment-page-1#comment-236012</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pah.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.6GHz? MNO&#039;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The UK&#039;s biggest MNO&#039;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#039;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#039;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, let&#039;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope you&#039;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#039;ve just spec&#039;d.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But of course this won&#039;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#039;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pah.</p>
<p>2.6GHz? MNO&#39;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?</p>
<p>Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?</p>
<p> The UK&#39;s biggest MNO&#39;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#39;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#39;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. </p>
<p>OK, let&#39;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand&#8230;.</p>
<p>Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.</p>
<p>Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.</p>
<p>Hope you&#39;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#39;ve just spec&#39;d.</p>
<p>Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.</p>
<p>But of course this won&#39;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#39;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.</p>
<p>/m</p>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/uk_operators_worried_about_rumoured_wimax_entrant.html/comment-page-1#comment-227762</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pah.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.6GHz? MNO&#039;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The UK&#039;s biggest MNO&#039;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#039;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#039;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK, let&#039;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope you&#039;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#039;ve just spec&#039;d.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But of course this won&#039;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#039;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pah.</p>
<p>2.6GHz? MNO&#39;s afraid? What_is Unstrung_smoking?</p>
<p>Look at all the problems Muni-Fi has delivering at 2.4GHz (OK, not quite comparable due to max TX power, but there is a correlation). At the time when everyone (apart from the UK)  is refarming like crazy to get 3G at sub-1GHz frequencies, people are apparently scared of a 2.6GHz entrant?</p>
<p> The UK&#39;s biggest MNO&#39;s had to deploy circa 6-7000 Macro sites to get to around 80-90% population. Other MNO&#39;s have deployed fewer, and hence have less coverage. And 3G in-building coverage, on average, is not great. These networks were planned for outdoor service, and now with everyone using dongles inside, on their laps, it&#39;s a challenge to serve customers what they expect. </p>
<p>OK, let&#39;s assume a WiMax dongle is available at a similar cost to a 3.5G one (whole different issue there). Fine. And they have a retail partner. OK. Customer buys (maybe online) and goes home to bedsit in suburban Reading. Plugs in. Turns on. Aaaaaaand&#8230;.</p>
<p>Somewhere nearby, but not more than about a mile away at 2.6GHz / WiMax-standards licenced TX emission, there needs to be a WiMax basestation. With a mast. And an antenna. And backhaul. And air-conditioning. And a property lease. And a tech in a white van on hand if it breaks. and a level 3 ISP deal. And a licence to operate. And a call centre.</p>
<p>Now, multiply this by many thousands of times to get even half-arsed mass-market coverage.</p>
<p>Hope you&#39;ve got a decent chequebook, because that is a multi-Billion pound, 3-year minimum rollout puppy you&#39;ve just spec&#39;d.</p>
<p>Oh, and while you were building that, the 3.5G networks just got bumped to HSPA Evolution, with real bitrates circa 20MBps.</p>
<p>But of course this won&#39;t stop some VC wet-behind-the-ears from pouring half a hedge into the idea. The MNO&#39;s likely biggest fear? Bleeding experienced staff to the new entrant.</p>
<p>/m</p>
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		<title>By: SteveRowlands</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/05/uk_operators_worried_about_rumoured_wimax_entrant.html/comment-page-1#comment-227761</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveRowlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why they are even bothering to try and delay the auction.  I&#039;m sure the government will do a pretty good job of plucking the whole thing up anyway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WiMax is the new &#039;Edge&#039; isn&#039;t it?  Out of date, before it even arrives......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure why they are even bothering to try and delay the auction.  I&#39;m sure the government will do a pretty good job of plucking the whole thing up anyway.</p>
<p>WiMax is the new &#39;Edge&#39; isn&#39;t it?  Out of date, before it even arrives&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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