Comments on: Mr Operator: Developers are out of date http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:00:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jamescoops http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-242651 jamescoops Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:51:56 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-242651 Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services - the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening. Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services – the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening.

]]> By: james (mjelly) http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-235182 james (mjelly) Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:51:56 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-235182 Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services - the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening. Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services – the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening.

]]> By: james (mjelly) http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-226331 james (mjelly) Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:51:56 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-226331 Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services - the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening. Developers dont need operators anymore now that the walled gardens are down, people are exploring off-portal and data costs are falling. The question is, apart from Apple, who is going to emerge as the search and context provider for mobile applications and services – the operators could do it if they could create proper next generation smart portals but I dont see that happening.

]]> By: TerenceEden http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-226329 TerenceEden Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:28:11 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-226329 I'm not sure if we've picked up any specific apps... yet :-)<br>We have picked up designs for our new site - see <a href="http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/web/guest/aboutus">http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/web/guest/aboutus</a><br>Also, as I said before, Vodafone Spain now links directly to the Spanish version of betavine.mobi meaning these developers get exposed to a much larger audience. I'm not sure if we've picked up any specific apps… yet :-)
We have picked up designs for our new site – see http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/web/guest/aboutus
Also, as I said before, Vodafone Spain now links directly to the Spanish version of betavine.mobi meaning these developers get exposed to a much larger audience.

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-226328 Mike42 Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:24:42 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-226328 Hi Terence,<br><br>Betavine has been around for a while - what has come out of it that's been picked up by VF operators around the world? i.e. is it working?<br><br>/m Hi Terence,

Betavine has been around for a while – what has come out of it that's been picked up by VF operators around the world? i.e. is it working?

/m

]]> By: MartinSFP http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-226330 MartinSFP Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:55:27 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-226330 "These people will always grumble that MNO “These people will always grumble that MNO

]]> By: TerenceEden http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/mr_operator_developers_are_out_of_date.html/comment-page-1#comment-226327 TerenceEden Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:41:03 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7054#comment-226327 This is exactly what Vodafone R&D's <a href="http://www.betavine.net/">Betavine</a> is all about. Allowing niche players access to the Vodafone APIs and letting them distribute their apps via web and <a href="http://betavine.mobi/">.mobi</a>.<br><br>The service is currently integrated into Vodafone live for Spanish customers. But anyone can point their browser at <a href="http://www.betavine.net/">Betavine.net</a> and get downloading.<br><br>We're even drinking our own kool-aid by using it to <a href="http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/web/guest/voda_channel/zone">promote our branded applications</a>.<br><br>Applications are really where it's at. We're always going to have some premium apps which we fully support, but we know that letting bedroom developers and other 3rd parties run wild is the best way to create a thriving ecosystem.<br><br>The only way we can make the mobile web a success is by being open. Open protocols, open ideas, open development and, most of all, open minded. This is exactly what Vodafone R&D's Betavine is all about. Allowing niche players access to the Vodafone APIs and letting them distribute their apps via web and .mobi.

The service is currently integrated into Vodafone live for Spanish customers. But anyone can point their browser at Betavine.net and get downloading.

We're even drinking our own kool-aid by using it to promote our branded applications.

Applications are really where it's at. We're always going to have some premium apps which we fully support, but we know that letting bedroom developers and other 3rd parties run wild is the best way to create a thriving ecosystem.

The only way we can make the mobile web a success is by being open. Open protocols, open ideas, open development and, most of all, open minded.

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