Comments on: The iPhone 3G failure to launch continues! http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:15:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Philhellene http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-242391 Philhellene Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:47:53 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-242391 The problems are not just in the UK <a href="http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-all-your-o2-iphone-3g-problems/" rel="nofollow">http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...</a> The problems are not just in the UK http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-242390 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:12:50 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-242390 "Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc."<br><br>Yeah - I think I covered that when I said:<br><br>"I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure.<br>Not the iPhone. "<br><br>But hey, you don't have to read all of my replies. <br>It just helps. <br><br>Re: APS - This is made redundant in new handsets. The N78 APPARENTLY has this sorted out... I am yet to test it myself so don't quote me/use it as further ammo. <br><br>Cheers. “Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.”

Yeah – I think I covered that when I said:

“I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure.
Not the iPhone. “

But hey, you don't have to read all of my replies.
It just helps.

Re: APS – This is made redundant in new handsets. The N78 APPARENTLY has this sorted out… I am yet to test it myself so don't quote me/use it as further ammo.

Cheers.

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-242389 Mike42 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:04:15 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-242389 Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.<br><br>...re APS, I think that sort of stuff isn't a deal-breaker at the time of purchase, because phones aren't chosen by most based on the niceties of the UI. But long-term useage is. And that's what MNO's want to drive, so silly, utterly useless messages that just confuse and obfuscate should be hunted down and ruthlessly told to go away. Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.

…re APS, I think that sort of stuff isn't a deal-breaker at the time of purchase, because phones aren't chosen by most based on the niceties of the UI. But long-term useage is. And that's what MNO's want to drive, so silly, utterly useless messages that just confuse and obfuscate should be hunted down and ruthlessly told to go away.

]]> By: Philhellene http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-235636 Philhellene Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:47:53 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-235636 The problems are not just in the UK <a href="http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-all-your-o2-iphone-3g-problems/" rel="nofollow">http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...</a> The problems are not just in the UK http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...

]]> By: Philhellene http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224489 Philhellene Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:47:53 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224489 The problems are not just in the UK <a href="http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-all-your-o2-iphone-3g-problems/">http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...</a> The problems are not just in the UK http://patphelan.net/here-is-the-solution-for-a...

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224487 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:12:50 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224487 "Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc."<br><br>Yeah - I think I covered that when I said:<br><br>"I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure.<br>Not the iPhone. "<br><br>But hey, you don't have to read all of my replies. <br>It just helps. <br><br>Re: APS - This is made redundant in new handsets. The N78 APPARENTLY has this sorted out... I am yet to test it myself so don't quote me/use it as further ammo. <br><br>Cheers. “Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.”

Yeah – I think I covered that when I said:

“I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure.
Not the iPhone. “

But hey, you don't have to read all of my replies.
It just helps.

Re: APS – This is made redundant in new handsets. The N78 APPARENTLY has this sorted out… I am yet to test it myself so don't quote me/use it as further ammo.

Cheers.

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224486 Mike42 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:04:15 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224486 Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.<br><br>...re APS, I think that sort of stuff isn't a deal-breaker at the time of purchase, because phones aren't chosen by most based on the niceties of the UI. But long-term useage is. And that's what MNO's want to drive, so silly, utterly useless messages that just confuse and obfuscate should be hunted down and ruthlessly told to go away. Just because the launch was a complete T5, doesn't mean the device is too. Baby/bathwater etc.

…re APS, I think that sort of stuff isn't a deal-breaker at the time of purchase, because phones aren't chosen by most based on the niceties of the UI. But long-term useage is. And that's what MNO's want to drive, so silly, utterly useless messages that just confuse and obfuscate should be hunted down and ruthlessly told to go away.

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224485 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:12:44 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224485 If you like, I'm not fussed... <br><br>Happy to waste more time on this site talking up the iPhone if you think it deserves more column inches. <br><br>I couldn't care less... I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure. <br>Not the iPhone. <br><br><br><br>You make a good point about the Access Point Settings. I shall remember that deal-breaker next time I'm selecting a new device... <br><br>*sigh* If you like, I'm not fussed…

Happy to waste more time on this site talking up the iPhone if you think it deserves more column inches.

I couldn't care less… I find the iPhone LAUNCH a complete and utter failure.
Not the iPhone.

You make a good point about the Access Point Settings. I shall remember that deal-breaker next time I'm selecting a new device…

*sigh*

]]> By: bradjcouk http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224488 bradjcouk Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:40:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224488 I had the same problem.. I was first in line friday morning outside o2, had to sign up the old fahsioned way (pen and paper). I'm not even sure if they actually did a credit check in the end.. Anyway, out of the store and using wifi by 8:30am and I didn't have 3G access till Sunday 10am... :( But it came eventually, and I'm happy. I suppose being a total sucker to consumerism and being first inline, and getting the phone in my hands straight away, now it's working, I kinda forgive O2 for not getting their lives together like at&t did for their launch... (At least their staff knew how to use the iPhone...) I had the same problem.. I was first in line friday morning outside o2, had to sign up the old fahsioned way (pen and paper). I'm not even sure if they actually did a credit check in the end.. Anyway, out of the store and using wifi by 8:30am and I didn't have 3G access till Sunday 10am… :( But it came eventually, and I'm happy. I suppose being a total sucker to consumerism and being first inline, and getting the phone in my hands straight away, now it's working, I kinda forgive O2 for not getting their lives together like at&t did for their launch… (At least their staff knew how to use the iPhone…)

]]> By: MarkW http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224484 MarkW Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:36:02 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224484 Well, I don't have an i3G and I've never used one (nor the 2g), I'm an N95 8GB kind of guy with a heavily used data plan, BUT I have a horrible feeling I know who'd be the winner - and that makes me sad :-( Well, I don't have an i3G and I've never used one (nor the 2g), I'm an N95 8GB kind of guy with a heavily used data plan, BUT I have a horrible feeling I know who'd be the winner – and that makes me sad :-(

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224483 Mike42 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:05:49 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224483 Ladies, ladies...manbags at dawn, perhaps? <br><br>Q: if you had to design a test, to - in theory - benchmark the non-voice/text mobile user experience of various devices, what would it be?<br><br>(I'm leaving out voice/text as they are sorted, common denominator, etc, and really so last decade. No, don't discuss)<br><br>So, here's a Non-Voice/Text (NVT - I got me a new acronym! w00t!) starter for 10: Say, oh, a bog-standard, out-of-the-box-no-special-apps-installed N95 GB and an i3G....<br><br>Both devices on the table, turned on. Not allowed to use Texperts / 118-118 etc. Pick two members of the public who have been mobile users for some time. Start the clock ticking.....<br><br>Find the nearest cash machine.<br>Find out the population of Morocco.<br>Find out the next direct flight to Edinburgh from Heathrow.<br>Purchase and listen to the current #1 song in the UK charts.<br>Convert a European size 39 shoe to UK size.<br>Add a comment to your Facebook page.<br>Tell me the time in Sydney, right now.<br>Watch the current highest-rated YouTube clip.<br>Take a photo and email it to me.<br>Find out the going price on eBay for a used TomTom Go 700.<br><br>Maybe repeat with some more people. Maybe swap devices a month later and re-run. Collate the results. <br><br>Anyone up for this? Ladies, ladies…manbags at dawn, perhaps?

Q: if you had to design a test, to – in theory – benchmark the non-voice/text mobile user experience of various devices, what would it be?

(I'm leaving out voice/text as they are sorted, common denominator, etc, and really so last decade. No, don't discuss)

So, here's a Non-Voice/Text (NVT – I got me a new acronym! w00t!) starter for 10: Say, oh, a bog-standard, out-of-the-box-no-special-apps-installed N95 GB and an i3G….

Both devices on the table, turned on. Not allowed to use Texperts / 118-118 etc. Pick two members of the public who have been mobile users for some time. Start the clock ticking…..

Find the nearest cash machine.
Find out the population of Morocco.
Find out the next direct flight to Edinburgh from Heathrow.
Purchase and listen to the current #1 song in the UK charts.
Convert a European size 39 shoe to UK size.
Add a comment to your Facebook page.
Tell me the time in Sydney, right now.
Watch the current highest-rated YouTube clip.
Take a photo and email it to me.
Find out the going price on eBay for a used TomTom Go 700.

Maybe repeat with some more people. Maybe swap devices a month later and re-run. Collate the results.

Anyone up for this?

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224482 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:46:46 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224482 Sorry - that last sentence should've been bookended with:<br><br>"You will be..." <br><br>and <br><br>"...as soon as your sorry operator pulls their finger out and activates your 'amazing' phone." Sorry – that last sentence should've been bookended with:

“You will be…”

and

“…as soon as your sorry operator pulls their finger out and activates your 'amazing' phone.”

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224481 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:45:21 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224481 SO easy to poke fun now guys - but I've been rocking 3.5G now for God knows how long... <br><br>Welcome to the club. SO easy to poke fun now guys – but I've been rocking 3.5G now for God knows how long…

Welcome to the club.

]]> By: smstextnews http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224479 smstextnews Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:40:07 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224479 Couldn't have put it better myself Couldn't have put it better myself

]]> By: smstextnews http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224480 smstextnews Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:40:06 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224480 Or the fool using the Nokia? Or the fool using the Nokia?

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224478 Mike42 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:28:29 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224478 ......Or the fool who puts up with 'Select Access Point' for oh, I dunno, his entire working life?<br><br>(fish/barrel, that one ;-) ) ……Or the fool who puts up with 'Select Access Point' for oh, I dunno, his entire working life?

(fish/barrel, that one ;-) )

]]> By: DanLane http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224477 DanLane Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:25:32 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224477 That's what I said! That's what I said!

]]> By: James Whatley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/the_iphone_3g_failure_to_launch_continues.html/comment-page-1#comment-224476 James Whatley Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:17:20 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=7119#comment-224476 Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him? Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

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