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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/youth_mobile_marketing_will_it_work.html/comment-page-1#comment-250007</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I&#039;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark... and i mentionned to FB I&#039;m in arelationship...&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not just Blyk I think. That&#039;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I&#39;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark&#8230; and i mentionned to FB I&#39;m in arelationship&#8230;<br />That&#39;s not just Blyk I think. That&#39;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/youth_mobile_marketing_will_it_work.html/comment-page-1#comment-249697</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I&#039;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark... and i mentionned to FB I&#039;m in arelationship...&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not just Blyk I think. That&#039;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I&#39;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark&#8230; and i mentionned to FB I&#39;m in arelationship&#8230;<br />That&#39;s not just Blyk I think. That&#39;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/youth_mobile_marketing_will_it_work.html/comment-page-1#comment-227787</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I&#039;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark... and i mentionned to FB I&#039;m in arelationship...&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s not just Blyk I think. That&#039;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I&#39;ve said to myself the same thing when receiving an ad mentionning that I can meet new celibs by Idontknowwhattrademark&#8230; and i mentionned to FB I&#39;m in arelationship&#8230;<br />That&#39;s not just Blyk I think. That&#39;s user tracking and CRM management that has to be refreshed no?</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/youth_mobile_marketing_will_it_work.html/comment-page-1#comment-227786</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it&#039;s also not that I want Blyk to know more about me, or anyone for that instance; it&#039;s that not many people do enjoy adverts. Yes, there may be a big demographic that do, but I wonder in what age groups?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Long and rambling posts are good!&lt;br&gt;:D&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samantha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>But it&#39;s also not that I want Blyk to know more about me, or anyone for that instance; it&#39;s that not many people do enjoy adverts. Yes, there may be a big demographic that do, but I wonder in what age groups?</p>
<p>Long and rambling posts are good!<br /> <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Samantha.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that was a really useful primer for people like myself who don&#039;t know really know this stuff.  Ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that was a really useful primer for people like myself who don&#39;t know really know this stuff.  Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceEden</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceEden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shhhh! You&#039;re not meant to point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://quotationsbook.com/quote/5241/&quot;&gt;&quot;Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don&#039;t know which half.&quot; - John Wanamaker&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Non-Targeted advertising exits for two reasons&lt;br&gt;1) On the off chance that &lt;i&gt;just at that moment&lt;/i&gt; you have a longing for Baked Beans.&lt;br&gt;2) To increase your awareness of the product so that &lt;i&gt;in the future&lt;/i&gt; when faced between a choice of what to eat, you&#039;ll chose that brand of Baked Beans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, those of us that dislike adverts block them out.  They&#039;re not of interest and we don&#039;t want to see them.  This leaves the people who do like adverts (and there are a disturbingly large amount of them) to see the untargeted ads.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, we&#039;re left with directly targeted ads.  I know that you&#039;re a F/16/student - that&#039;s not enough to personally target you.  That&#039;s enough to target your demographic.  So I&#039;d end up sending you adverts for heat magazine, fake tan and horoscopes.  Not good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now I&#039;m forced into trying to know &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; relevant about you to build up a specific profile.  If I knew which books you read, shops you visited, web sites you read, friends you met etc I&#039;d be able to send you deals on mobile phones, books about British Politics and alchopops.&lt;br&gt;But - and here&#039;s the kicker - would you be happy with me knowing all of that about you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, let&#039;s look at the three main reasons for advertising existing&lt;br&gt;1) To subsidise.  ITV shows are &quot;free&quot; because the advertisers pay for them.&lt;br&gt;2) To profit. C4 make enough money from the Big Brother phone-ins to pay for the show. The advertising gives them more profit.&lt;br&gt;3) To legitimise. As bizarre as it may seem, some people distrust the BBC because it doesn&#039;t carry advertising. Websites without advertising on them can often appear &lt;em&gt;less&lt;/em&gt; professional than those carrying ads.&lt;br&gt;People accept advertising because they don&#039;t want to pay directly.  Even though advertising increases the cost of your annual shopping basket &lt;i&gt;far&lt;/i&gt; more than the cost of the Licence Fee - they&#039;d still rather not pay directly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, you make a choice.  Do you want to pay directly - or do you want to pay indirectly?  If you do want to pay indirectly, how much information are you willing to sacrifice for relevance?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What a long and rambling post....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shhhh! You&#39;re not meant to point out that the Emperor Has No Clothes.</p>
<p><a href="http://quotationsbook.com/quote/5241/">&#8220;Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don&#39;t know which half.&#8221; &#8211; John Wanamaker</a>.</p>
<p>Non-Targeted advertising exits for two reasons<br />1) On the off chance that <i>just at that moment</i> you have a longing for Baked Beans.<br />2) To increase your awareness of the product so that <i>in the future</i> when faced between a choice of what to eat, you&#39;ll chose that brand of Baked Beans.</p>
<p>Of course, those of us that dislike adverts block them out.  They&#39;re not of interest and we don&#39;t want to see them.  This leaves the people who do like adverts (and there are a disturbingly large amount of them) to see the untargeted ads.</p>
<p>So, we&#39;re left with directly targeted ads.  I know that you&#39;re a F/16/student &#8211; that&#39;s not enough to personally target you.  That&#39;s enough to target your demographic.  So I&#39;d end up sending you adverts for heat magazine, fake tan and horoscopes.  Not good.</p>
<p>Now I&#39;m forced into trying to know <b>everything</b> relevant about you to build up a specific profile.  If I knew which books you read, shops you visited, web sites you read, friends you met etc I&#39;d be able to send you deals on mobile phones, books about British Politics and alchopops.<br />But &#8211; and here&#39;s the kicker &#8211; would you be happy with me knowing all of that about you?</p>
<p>So, let&#39;s look at the three main reasons for advertising existing<br />1) To subsidise.  ITV shows are &#8220;free&#8221; because the advertisers pay for them.<br />2) To profit. C4 make enough money from the Big Brother phone-ins to pay for the show. The advertising gives them more profit.<br />3) To legitimise. As bizarre as it may seem, some people distrust the BBC because it doesn&#39;t carry advertising. Websites without advertising on them can often appear <em>less</em> professional than those carrying ads.<br />People accept advertising because they don&#39;t want to pay directly.  Even though advertising increases the cost of your annual shopping basket <i>far</i> more than the cost of the Licence Fee &#8211; they&#39;d still rather not pay directly.</p>
<p>So, you make a choice.  Do you want to pay directly &#8211; or do you want to pay indirectly?  If you do want to pay indirectly, how much information are you willing to sacrifice for relevance?</p>
<p>What a long and rambling post&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mostlythis</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/07/youth_mobile_marketing_will_it_work.html/comment-page-1#comment-227783</link>
		<dc:creator>mostlythis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also is blyk just too much - i expect its probably a case of advertising in the way of content, rather than advertising inside content or ambient, which we all accept.  BLYK seems like the ad equilivant of those automated cold calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also is blyk just too much &#8211; i expect its probably a case of advertising in the way of content, rather than advertising inside content or ambient, which we all accept.  BLYK seems like the ad equilivant of those automated cold calls.</p>
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		<title>By: mostlythis</title>
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		<dc:creator>mostlythis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw - i didnt mean that post to sound rude - reading back it is a bit blunt :)  not meaning it to be personal and all that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw &#8211; i didnt mean that post to sound rude &#8211; reading back it is a bit blunt <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   not meaning it to be personal and all that</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful to me would be News updates. I&#039;m an addict for BBC News channel, and anything like that. Other than that, I don&#039;t see anything of any use.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t like adverts, and most things can probably wait until I&#039;m on the computer. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then again, pretty much all my friends couldn&#039;t careless about Gordon Brown&#039;s latest cock-up. I&#039;m a minority in that sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Samantha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful to me would be News updates. I&#39;m an addict for BBC News channel, and anything like that. Other than that, I don&#39;t see anything of any use.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t like adverts, and most things can probably wait until I&#39;m on the computer. </p>
<p>Then again, pretty much all my friends couldn&#39;t careless about Gordon Brown&#39;s latest cock-up. I&#39;m a minority in that sense.</p>
<p>Samantha.</p>
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		<title>By: mostlythis</title>
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		<dc:creator>mostlythis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you - like most people think you don&#039;t respond to advertising, and that it doesn&#039;t work.&lt;br&gt;you are wrong and it does.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;i work on mobile adverting for a client - each time they run an advert they get between 500 - 3000 new customers per slot - and a slot is around 3 hours. it works, bloody well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you &#8211; like most people think you don&#39;t respond to advertising, and that it doesn&#39;t work.<br />you are wrong and it does.</p>
<p>i work on mobile adverting for a client &#8211; each time they run an advert they get between 500 &#8211; 3000 new customers per slot &#8211; and a slot is around 3 hours. it works, bloody well.</p>
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		<title>By: Txtlocal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Txtlocal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;have you ever heard someone say that they bought or did something because of an advert they received on a mobile?&quot;...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;... yes, I have over 15,000 businesses who tell me each day about the success they are having with opt-in SMS marketing - everyone from churches to chip shops to football teams to plumbers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have local pubs who text customers when they have a quiz night or a band... we have churches that remind people about service times.... we have pizza shops who offer 2 for 1 offers to their own local opt in customers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So yes, if mobile marketing is done properly it is very effective - perhaps the most powerful and efficient form of marketing available.... Blyk simply have the wrong model! :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alastair&lt;br&gt;Txtlocal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;have you ever heard someone say that they bought or did something because of an advert they received on a mobile?&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; yes, I have over 15,000 businesses who tell me each day about the success they are having with opt-in SMS marketing &#8211; everyone from churches to chip shops to football teams to plumbers. </p>
<p>We have local pubs who text customers when they have a quiz night or a band&#8230; we have churches that remind people about service times&#8230;. we have pizza shops who offer 2 for 1 offers to their own local opt in customers.</p>
<p>So yes, if mobile marketing is done properly it is very effective &#8211; perhaps the most powerful and efficient form of marketing available&#8230;. Blyk simply have the wrong model! <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alastair<br />Txtlocal</p>
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		<title>By: bradley1</title>
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		<dc:creator>bradley1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha, is there anything you can think of that you would like to recieve through your phone? What would be useful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha, is there anything you can think of that you would like to recieve through your phone? What would be useful?</p>
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