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By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:55:47 +0000

I see the same thing. In addition, the phone is constantly warm and the phone rarely rings when people call. At first, I thought something had happened to the phone. The Apple Store in town actually swapped it out thinking the battery had gone bad. Same battery drain/heat with the replacement phone. I could tell from my computer speakers that the phone had become unusually chatty behavior which had changed from the first 5 months I owned it. In doing some research, I also learned that when the network is busy (2G in my case…probably same for 3G) the phone cannot recieve/place calls. I theorized that something was just talking on the data service a LOT. I removed all my apps. No change. I decided to delete both my Exchange and IMAP account on the phone…and voila! The phone was no longer chatty, reasonable battery life returned, and I had no email. I went without for a couple of days, then added the Exchange account back in….but, for whatever reason, I decided to try email only and leave calendar/contact syncing off. The phone worked great. Message push worked great and battery life remained more than acceptable. After a couple of days, I turned on calendar syncing. I turned it off 1 hour later after losing 30% of my battery charge. Thing is, it did work at one time. I suspect something happened either in my calendar or with the Exchange server….although that's simply a hunch.

By: Tony

Tony — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:55:47 +0000

By: smstextnews

smstextnews — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:19:07 +0000

approve

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By: nome

nome — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:06:01 +0000

Same here,.. it really sucks,. with 3G and GPS turned off, mail set to pull once every hour and exchange (only calendars) on I get like 6-7 hours of battery without calling and messaging,..

It really sucks!

By: Ammiel

Ammiel — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:03:30 +0000

I suffer from same problems.

On my old Palm device the ActiveSync implementation allowed for "push" or to set a polling schedule (e.g. every 10 minutes the phone would pull). I used the pull method for years and had no issues. Alas, this configurability is not available on my iPhone.

I'm considering switching off ActiveSync, but I really need my calendar sync'd to the exchange version -- and I can't be without the accept/decline for meeting invites I can get to my corp mail through IMAP/POP, but don't know how to maintain calendar in sync -- any thoughts?

Lastly, why does the iphone implementation ping the server EVERY time I go to a mail message? (often even if the message has been previously opened?) This seems like a particularly chatty implementation and many times it takes as long as 2 to 3 seconds just to open a mail message. If the connection is slow (Edge) then it can take even longer (again, for a message that has come in several hours prior...).

Also,

By: Ron Feldman

Ron Feldman — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:47:05 +0000

I have no push services on (use IMAP and Google Apps For Your Domain account) and battery life is still terrible, so while it probably makes it worse, there are definitely other issues…..

By: smstextnews

smstextnews — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:31:07 +0000

Approve

On 8 Aug 2008, at 23:13, “Disqus”

By: TR Sills

TR Sills — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:12:25 +0000

Without a doubt, battery mgmt is an issue even on the 2g. The 2.01 code seemed to help with the hesitation/stuttering with application spawning and data entry…but I don't see any improvement re: battery usage (although not even sure if there was anything meant to address this as I had hoped). Overall, I think the enablement of the data push has cut the daily battery life to less than half of what I normally experienced…1-2 days on usage that consisted mostly of data via edge with wifi on occasion.

By: bradjcouk

bradjcouk — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:06:02 +0000

At least there's a lot less junk mail on your door mat now…

By: DanLane

DanLane — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:16:09 +0000

FAIL!

By: DanLane

DanLane — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:11:06 +0000

It's been a while since I did anything with it so this is all from vague memory but you can, on Symbian at least, tell an app to listen for class 3 SMS and take action on it… the user is entirely unaware of any SMS arriving and the SMS can, in this example, then be interpreted by the app as a trigger to go and fetch mail.

This is similar to the way the little voicemail & fax indications work.

By: adambird

adambird — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:13:52 +0000

It sucks, it's an early adopter requirement rather than being 'the iPhone we've been waiting for'

However, it remains a lovely, lovely thing.

By: smstextnews

smstextnews — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:12:05 +0000

Delete

On 8 Aug 2008, at 13:09, “Disqus”

By: smstextnews

smstextnews — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:09:06 +0000

Might need to do the same Adam. I think that is the way ahead!

On 8 Aug 2008, at 13:05, “Disqus”

By: 3g phone

3g phone — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:08:50 +0000

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By: adambird

adambird — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:04:49 +0000

Exchange push has always been an inefficient process. The problem is that it maintains a TCP connection back to the server, v.expensive as must keep data link open at all times.

BlackBerry have this one nailed, using out-of-band signalling, ie a message is sent to the device over the mobile network telling it to go and get some data. That way BlackBerry just establishes data connection when needed. I suspect that they might do something funky with the data stack as well, though that is pure speculation.

I've resorted to buying a Proporta mobile charger (http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=2...). Keep it in my bag and I'm never far away from a top up. It does my Nokia as well.

By: mostlythis

mostlythis — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:02:33 +0000

nokia 7710 – respect!

By: tim

tim — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:24:46 +0000

Your quite right of course, but I like gadgets, and push email is just another one of them.
Saying that though, OpenHand is a polling email client, yet customers were not willing to wait even a minute for an email…
My Nokia 7710 lasts about a week, bigger screen than the iPhone, though a tad less elegant.

By: mostlythis

mostlythis — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:12:39 +0000

Can't do without Push email though…
erm, you can – honest – really.

joking aside – its interesting that your moaning about the E71 only having 3 days of battery life!

iPhone is lucky to make it to lunch