Comments on: Review: Teleware PMN Rapid Deployment Unit (RDU) http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:51:00 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-243923 Jay Fenton Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:32:35 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-243923 I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but... well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience). I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but… well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience).

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-233501 Jay Fenton Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:32:35 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-233501 I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but... well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience). I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but… well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience).

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-231945 Jay Fenton Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:32:35 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-231945 I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but... well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience). I have no doubt that it /is/ possible, but I couldn't find an option to do it in amongst the hundreds of configurables (we also didn't have a manual, and I did try to call support several times but… well, lets just say the support wasn't a great experience).

]]> By: Ryan Cullen http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-231754 Ryan Cullen Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:14:40 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-231754 Was it possible to set your own network name like "Garfone". All I could see was the 00104. Was it possible to set your own network name like “Garfone”. All I could see was the 00104.

]]> By: kevx http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229785 kevx Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:06:55 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229785 I WANT ONE. OR TWO I WANT ONE. OR TWO

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229774 Mike42 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:05:57 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229774 "Radio waves should be free, man."<br><br>No they bloody shouldn't! That's VC bollocks talk there. Standards are it, man. This is the RF equilvalent of saying that IP should be free - We don't need that pesky IPv4 system. Free the Bits!<br><br>We've seen what 'Free' radio waves delivers - Any Blyk subscribers out there?<br><br>Funnily enough, I like call quality. I like 5 9's of reliability. I have no desire to bring the wonderful end-user experience that is WiFi RF "management" to the voice/sms world.<br><br>You'll be telling me mesh networks are viable next! “Radio waves should be free, man.”

No they bloody shouldn't! That's VC bollocks talk there. Standards are it, man. This is the RF equilvalent of saying that IP should be free – We don't need that pesky IPv4 system. Free the Bits!

We've seen what 'Free' radio waves delivers – Any Blyk subscribers out there?

Funnily enough, I like call quality. I like 5 9's of reliability. I have no desire to bring the wonderful end-user experience that is WiFi RF “management” to the voice/sms world.

You'll be telling me mesh networks are viable next!

]]> By: Mike42 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229773 Mike42 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:59:12 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229773 It's the red velour chair / throne thing.... It's the red velour chair / throne thing….

]]> By: Kirk "Grumpy" Bateman http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229767 Kirk "Grumpy" Bateman Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:17 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229767 Yup complete agreement here ... if we can figure out the prices I'm sure the usual crowd (and the prom queen) could knock something together that works. Sounds like a good bit of fun too... Yup complete agreement here … if we can figure out the prices I'm sure the usual crowd (and the prom queen) could knock something together that works. Sounds like a good bit of fun too…

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229761 Jay Fenton Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:58:02 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229761 Prom queen? Have you been following me at the weekends again? Prom queen? Have you been following me at the weekends again?

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229760 Jay Fenton Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:57:20 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229760 Any clue as to how much it costs to get a license? The PMN can only handle 4x calls at once (8-channel AMR BTS) and has limited range, so surely can't have cost Teleware too much? (famous last words, but otherwise Pico/Femto-cell deployments in offices would be prohibitively expensive).<br><br>The OpenBTS project looks great, but the lack of easy legal testing is obviously holding up its progress. <br><br>Radio waves should be free, man. Any clue as to how much it costs to get a license? The PMN can only handle 4x calls at once (8-channel AMR BTS) and has limited range, so surely can't have cost Teleware too much? (famous last words, but otherwise Pico/Femto-cell deployments in offices would be prohibitively expensive).

The OpenBTS project looks great, but the lack of easy legal testing is obviously holding up its progress.

Radio waves should be free, man.

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229759 Jay Fenton Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:50:15 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229759 Thanks Terence. It wasn't roaming per-sae, as the PMN had no backhaul facility to T-Mobile and so they were totally out of the loop when I was within range of the PMN. You'd need to add an 'outside of coverage' divert on your T-Mobile number, to bounce the call to a real phone number that was routed to the PMN. <br><br>Ideally, you'd grab a number from someone like AQL.. then you can have Voice+SMS+Fax all on one number, and have it automagically route to wherever you are :) No roaming charges, and all your calls can be routed via VoIP out of the PMN when you're at your home/office - I imagine it'd pay for itself fairly quickly!<br><br>Maybe we can all club together and time-share a PMN? Thanks Terence. It wasn't roaming per-sae, as the PMN had no backhaul facility to T-Mobile and so they were totally out of the loop when I was within range of the PMN. You'd need to add an 'outside of coverage' divert on your T-Mobile number, to bounce the call to a real phone number that was routed to the PMN.

Ideally, you'd grab a number from someone like AQL.. then you can have Voice+SMS+Fax all on one number, and have it automagically route to wherever you are :) No roaming charges, and all your calls can be routed via VoIP out of the PMN when you're at your home/office – I imagine it'd pay for itself fairly quickly!

Maybe we can all club together and time-share a PMN?

]]> By: jamesbody http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229757 jamesbody Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:28:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229757 Well - if you want your own setup - but do not want to pay the GBP 20 price tag, then there is always the wonderful OpenBTS projecy - see Wikipedia entry at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBTS">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBTS</a><br><br>Of course you will still have to find someone with some spectrum to 'borrow' - but the thought of 'Community owned' GSM is one that really appeals to me - particularly as I live in a rural village in a valley in SW Wiltshire where GSM just does not reach (an the MNOs appear relctant to provide coverage). Well – if you want your own setup – but do not want to pay the GBP 20 price tag, then there is always the wonderful OpenBTS projecy – see Wikipedia entry at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenBTS

Of course you will still have to find someone with some spectrum to 'borrow' – but the thought of 'Community owned' GSM is one that really appeals to me – particularly as I live in a rural village in a valley in SW Wiltshire where GSM just does not reach (an the MNOs appear relctant to provide coverage).

]]> By: Ben Smith http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229756 Ben Smith Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:19:44 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229756 Jay Fenton for King!<br><br>or president<br><br>or prom queen<br><br>just give the man a medal... dammit. Jay Fenton for King!

or president

or prom queen

just give the man a medal… dammit.

]]> By: TerenceEden http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229755 TerenceEden Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:13:00 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229755 Brilliant review :-)<br><br>When you roamed your T-Mobile SIM on to the network, were you able to receive calls on it? If so, who is getting the roaming interconnect revenue that you'd pay? I guess that making calls wouldn't cost roaming charges?<br><br>I wonder why the software isn't wholly Linux? If it really needs to run some Windows software, why not use WINE or run Windows as the virtual machine? Slightly odd.<br><br>It would seem to me that the perfect addition to this would be a satellite phone. OK, you can plug it into a LAN or phone jack - but there aren't many of those in the middle of the jungle.<br><br>Finally, "No user serviceable parts"? That sounds like a challenge to me. Get some torx and crack it open! Brilliant review :-)

When you roamed your T-Mobile SIM on to the network, were you able to receive calls on it? If so, who is getting the roaming interconnect revenue that you'd pay? I guess that making calls wouldn't cost roaming charges?

I wonder why the software isn't wholly Linux? If it really needs to run some Windows software, why not use WINE or run Windows as the virtual machine? Slightly odd.

It would seem to me that the perfect addition to this would be a satellite phone. OK, you can plug it into a LAN or phone jack – but there aren't many of those in the middle of the jungle.

Finally, “No user serviceable parts”? That sounds like a challenge to me. Get some torx and crack it open!

]]> By: Jay Fenton http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229754 Jay Fenton Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:04:54 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229754 If you enjoyed the review, please Digg it so other like-minded folk get to see: <a href="http://digg.com/hardware/Teleware_s_Private_Mobile_Network_review_on_MIR">http://digg.com/hardware/Teleware_s_Private_Mob...</a><br><br>Thanks :) If you enjoyed the review, please Digg it so other like-minded folk get to see: http://digg.com/hardware/Teleware_s_Private_Mob…

Thanks :)

]]> By: Kirk "Grumpy" Bateman http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/review_teleware_pmn_rapid_deployment_unit_rdu.html/comment-page-1#comment-229753 Kirk "Grumpy" Bateman Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:02:46 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=9223#comment-229753 Excellent review Jay.<br><br>Having had a few comments with J, it looks like a lot of the issues could be resolved by moving to a linux only solution, SMSC software is relatively available these days and using only linux would probably cut the cost by somewhere around £2k - £5k I suspect, also it could possibly resolve the heating / cooling issues.<br><br>Just my thoughts... nice piece of kit though ... wouldn't mind one myself (make it open source and I'll do the mods too :) Excellent review Jay.

Having had a few comments with J, it looks like a lot of the issues could be resolved by moving to a linux only solution, SMSC software is relatively available these days and using only linux would probably cut the cost by somewhere around £2k – £5k I suspect, also it could possibly resolve the heating / cooling issues.

Just my thoughts… nice piece of kit though … wouldn't mind one myself (make it open source and I'll do the mods too :)

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