Comments on: Use your mobile as your Oyster card! http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:00:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-243719 Ewan Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:53:14 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-243719 Nice post, Dean!<br><br>2008/9/3 Disqus <> Nice post, Dean!

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]]> By: Dean Bubley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-243718 Dean Bubley Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:41:34 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-243718 I think it's almost certainly not going to happen. <br><br>I see almost no value in it at all - if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones "for free" for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.<br><br>I just wrote a post on this<br><a href="http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/plenty-of-unanswered-questions-about-o2.html" rel="nofollow">http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...</a><br><br>I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.<br><br>Dean I think it's almost certainly not going to happen.

I see almost no value in it at all – if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones “for free” for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.

I just wrote a post on this
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...

I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.

Dean

]]> By: Ewan @ MIR http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-233996 Ewan @ MIR Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:53:14 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-233996 Nice post, Dean!<br><br>2008/9/3 Disqus <> Nice post, Dean!

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]]> By: Dean Bubley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-233995 Dean Bubley Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:41:34 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-233995 I think it's almost certainly not going to happen. <br><br>I see almost no value in it at all - if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones "for free" for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.<br><br>I just wrote a post on this<br><a href="http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/plenty-of-unanswered-questions-about-o2.html" rel="nofollow">http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...</a><br><br>I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.<br><br>Dean I think it's almost certainly not going to happen.

I see almost no value in it at all – if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones “for free” for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.

I just wrote a post on this
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...

I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.

Dean

]]> By: smstextnews http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228894 smstextnews Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:53:14 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228894 Nice post, Dean!<br><br>2008/9/3 Disqus <> Nice post, Dean!

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]]> By: Dean Bubley http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228893 Dean Bubley Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:41:34 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228893 I think it's almost certainly not going to happen. <br><br>I see almost no value in it at all - if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones "for free" for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.<br><br>I just wrote a post on this<br><a href="http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/plenty-of-unanswered-questions-about-o2.html">http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...</a><br><br>I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.<br><br>Dean I think it's almost certainly not going to happen.

I see almost no value in it at all – if it's that great a concept to combine the two, why have I never seen someone with their Oyster card strapped to their phone with an elastic band, or simply glued to the back? I think O2 is just trying to use this as a lever to get NFC into phones “for free” for other potential applications in the future. It's also worried about being operators being excluded entirely from any futrue NFC-related deployments, and for the control to live with the handset manufacturers instead.

I just wrote a post on this
http://disruptivewireless.blogspot.com/2008/09/...

I can see some value in NFC, but I think the Oyster thing is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, and the m-wallet is a complete loser.

Dean

]]> By: nacho http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228820 nacho Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:43:22 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228820 I also wonder why in cases like this they never say anything about those who didn't like it.<br>Sure there are privacy concerns, etc but I'm all for it I also wonder why in cases like this they never say anything about those who didn't like it.
Sure there are privacy concerns, etc but I'm all for it

]]> By: smstextnews http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228802 smstextnews Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:31:25 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228802 If only....!<br><br>2008/9/2 Disqus <> If only….!

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]]> By: Burak http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228801 Burak Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:50:38 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228801 The idea seems like a no-brainer to me, I hope it gets rolled out. However, it seems such a good idea that I really want to know what the objections were for the 10% that didn't like it. It could be that they were just being really fussy, or maybe there was a flaw in the system/usability. The idea seems like a no-brainer to me, I hope it gets rolled out. However, it seems such a good idea that I really want to know what the objections were for the 10% that didn't like it. It could be that they were just being really fussy, or maybe there was a flaw in the system/usability.

]]> By: Ben Smith http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228781 Ben Smith Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:11:34 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228781 'Oyster' is the brand name for the cards as used by TfL... the current system operator lost their contract but that just means someone else will run the scheme. 'Oyster' is the brand name for the cards as used by TfL… the current system operator lost their contract but that just means someone else will run the scheme.

]]> By: MartinSFP http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228772 MartinSFP Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:55:31 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228772 Of course, Japan are lightyears ahead here. I saw loads of people use their phones to get onto the Tokyo Metro while I was there.<br><br>Come on UK - get your act together! This shouldn't be a single-operator initiative either, in fact I don't see why operators have to be involved at all. If a common standard could be ageed on it could just be put into phones just like Bluetooth is. Of course, Japan are lightyears ahead here. I saw loads of people use their phones to get onto the Tokyo Metro while I was there.

Come on UK – get your act together! This shouldn't be a single-operator initiative either, in fact I don't see why operators have to be involved at all. If a common standard could be ageed on it could just be put into phones just like Bluetooth is.

]]> By: nacho http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228770 nacho Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:25:03 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228770 Heard the same thing, tfl was cancelling the contract with oyster and oyster was suing to keep the name and the rights to the technology, something along those lines<br>However, I think the it's up to O2 et al to choose an NFC provider that can work with whatever system tfl has in place, be it oyster or something else<br>The problem, as usual, is all the parties involved to get together and make the whole thing work. Train operators for one have been "slow" (read opposed) to adopt the oyster system fully, ie you cannot use prepay oyster cards in some train stations<br>In short, this ain't happening before 2012 Heard the same thing, tfl was cancelling the contract with oyster and oyster was suing to keep the name and the rights to the technology, something along those lines
However, I think the it's up to O2 et al to choose an NFC provider that can work with whatever system tfl has in place, be it oyster or something else
The problem, as usual, is all the parties involved to get together and make the whole thing work. Train operators for one have been “slow” (read opposed) to adopt the oyster system fully, ie you cannot use prepay oyster cards in some train stations
In short, this ain't happening before 2012

]]> By: ocifant http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228769 ocifant Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:05:35 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228769 Nice idea, but given that I read somewhere that Oyster are losing the contract come renewal time (can't remember where - it popped up in my GReader a while ago), then I can't see this happening anytime soon, sadly. Nice idea, but given that I read somewhere that Oyster are losing the contract come renewal time (can't remember where – it popped up in my GReader a while ago), then I can't see this happening anytime soon, sadly.

]]> By: Ricky Chotai http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/09/use_your_mobile_as_your_oyster_card.html/comment-page-1#comment-228766 Ricky Chotai Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:49:51 +0000 http://www.smstextnews.com/?p=8918#comment-228766 We can only hope the UK operators actually listen and invest in stuff like this. We can only hope the UK operators actually listen and invest in stuff like this.

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