Comments on: A chip on my shoulder ‘the size of a banana’

By: Mike Davis

Mike Davis — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:04:03 +0000

If you really were a PR “Pro”, would you actually refer to yourself as a “Pro”?
Regards,

Mike Davis
A web development pro….. err wait….

By: Mike Davis

Mike Davis — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:04:03 +0000

If you really were a PR “Pro”, would you actually refer to yourself as a “Pro”?
Regards,

Mike Davis
A web development pro….. err wait….

By: Mike Davis

Mike Davis — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:04:03 +0000

If you really were a PR “Pro”, would you actually refer to yourself as a “Pro”?
Regards,

Mike Davis
A web development pro….. err wait….

By: HeavyLight

HeavyLight — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:47:00 +0000

Isn’t it more likely to be this ‘Robert Preston’ ?
(And just how low is sports PR in the seniority order?)

By: coloneltcb

coloneltcb — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:27:41 +0000

I am a senior PR pro and of all "journalists" (what does that even mean anymore) with whom I work, I like Ewan the best.

He's just hard to get a hold of, but always friendly and willing to listen when you do.

Screw you, Preston!

By: ilicco

ilicco — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:22:03 +0000

i bet you cant work out who typed this comment…

By: meraj

meraj — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:04:58 +0000

I'm so googling him…

By: James Whatley

James Whatley — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:57:30 +0000

Here I am… Minding my own business…

Jeez..

By: Mike42

Mike42 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:54:21 +0000

That Whatley – some say he has an extra set of nipples…and that he can dial Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo with a thought.

…and I distinctly heard him say 'nay' in Episode 37 (about 10 mniutes in).

He's a witch! Burn him!

By: Mike42

Mike42 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:49:28 +0000

Heh. I'm in danger of agreeing with you there...

....but don't underestimate the influence that the collected wisdom here has on MSM tech journo's. Sites like MIR, AAS etc are at the cutting edge of mobile geekery, but the stuff anguished over and debated here will filter into the masses. Underpaid and overstretched MSM journos need feeds and leads...and what better place to pick up the mobile zeitgeist than here? Thus it's wise to keep a weather eye on Ewan, Rafe & Co.

And if that weather eye happens to pick up a post, or an opinon, or a theory, and runs with it into the MSM world, then indeed the bloggos will have changed things.

/m

By: South77

South77 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:48:30 +0000

“someone who connects the dots between PR, customer communication and social media with great aplomb.” — well that could be a description of a good PR person.

By: penycate

penycate — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:43:35 +0000

Dear Mr PR dude,

Whatley is actually, pretty apt at communicating, as such during a meeting yesterday i had with someone at Saatchi I mentioned him as someone who connects the dots between PR, customer communication and social media with great aplomb.

Need a hug?

x

By: Paul Walsh

Paul Walsh — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:42:00 +0000

Rob – ouch. Sounds like you got out of the wrong side of bed today. Or, you just don’t know how to communicate in a way that demonstrates your understand of the topic you’re debating. Perhaps you should spend less energy insulting the author and more time on conscructing a response which is educational to the author and the community and thought provoking.

It’s all a matter of personal opinion.

I won’t make any assumptions about your knoweldge/experience. Just saying

By: EdHodges

EdHodges — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:22:00 +0000

I’m with Mike42 on this one. I don’t believe it’s right to ‘out’ someone who disagrees with a bloggers view. It seems an abuse of power. Apart from anything else you might stop genuinely insightful responses to MIRs ongoing dialog with its readers.

There is an element in me that gets frustrated that I can’t see who flamers are (especially on Youtube) and sometimes I’d like to give them serious verbal abuse in return, but ultimately i make my own mind up whether they have a good or ridiculous point. Being loyal and rallying around a bloggers opinion is one thing, but aggressively ‘outing’ someone who disagrees by following up on their IP address is a bit like a modern day witch hunt on a ‘nay sayer’.

By: South77

South77 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:02:03 +0000

it's a good blog… but more influential than the Independent? no way. more widely read than the Independent? no way.

a lot of crap is written about how blogging is changin the world, changing mainstream media, etc. 80 percent of it is utter boll*cks.

By: SMSblack

SMSblack — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:56:14 +0000

Mobile Industry Who? – I feel another name change coming on …

By: RichardR

RichardR — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:49:28 +0000

Unfortunately Robâ€™s comments are symptomatic of a wider issue impacting the industry â€“ the growing disconnect between mobile operator senior management (and their PR lapdogs), and whatâ€™s actually happening at grass roots level.

Increasingly it is the views of opinion formers on the web that are helping to shape the strategic direction of the industry (so writes a 10 year mobile strategy veteran). Traditional PR â€œexpertsâ€ are struggling to comprehend and manage this change, refusing to acknowledge that the landscape is shifting in favour of specialists such as MIR.

Itâ€™s great to see Ewan and team challenging the status quo and not simply regurgitating press releases â€“ keep it up. Mobile Industry Who? Thatâ€™ll be the leading mobile industry blog site that attracts 30k more readers than copies of the Independent newspaper are sold every dayâ€¦

By: South77

South77 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:49:13 +0000

yes, but you are publishing. it's the same difference.

By: MarkW

MarkW — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:06:06 +0000

Fair comment, but then where would we get our entertainment from?

By: phoneboy

phoneboy — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:07:59 +0000

This guy is a muppet. Ignore him. Don't feed the trolls.

By: Stephen Davies

Stephen Davies — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:22:40 +0000

I wonder if “Rob” got his inspiration for his name from BBC economics editor, Robert Peston? He has been in the news a lot of late.

Scary because:

* As a PR person Rob doesn't understand the etiquette of online

* As a PR person Rob clearly doesn't know what a blog is or who bloggers are

* As a PR person Rob hasn't heard of MIR

Not sure if I buy the 'none IP address disclosure'. If you're going to be a troll (or in this case a sockpuppet) then why shouldn't you call them out?

By: Kip Hakes

Kip Hakes — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:11:06 +0000

Hahahahah That IS funny!

By: DanLane

DanLane — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:22:47 +0000

Well, I don't think we've claimed to be journalists (depending on the mood you catch us in we might take that as an insult) but as I said above, it might be worth us reviewing (or at least, creating) our policies on commenter privacy

By: South77

South77 — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:22:18 +0000

all good for a laugh. should drive page views.

By: South77

South77 — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:13:16 +0000

You guys seriously need some training in journalism. Bringing the a the name of an organization into it will open you up to libel and defamation action unless you have better proof than an IP address. It's good to be aggresive, but be careful and responsible.