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	<title>Comments on: MIR Show Week 42 featuring the iMovio iKit</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-244384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - Rugby parlance.  Verb: To participate in a scrum.  (probably)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; Rugby parlance.  Verb: To participate in a scrum.  (probably)</p>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-244385</link>
		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;..but I doubt that&#039;s the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#39;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. </p>
<p>..but I doubt that&#39;s the reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Hakes</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-244383</link>
		<dc:creator>Kip Hakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &#039;scrummaging&#039; a word??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#39;scrummaging&#39; a word??</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-233776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - Rugby parlance.  Verb: To participate in a scrum.  (probably)</description>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-233777</link>
		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;..but I doubt that&#039;s the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#39;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. </p>
<p>..but I doubt that&#39;s the reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230539</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - Rugby parlance.  Verb: To participate in a scrum.  (probably)</description>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230536</link>
		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;..but I doubt that&#039;s the reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#39;know, someone might think it was because one of the team was missing.. </p>
<p>..but I doubt that&#39;s the reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Kip Hakes</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230527</link>
		<dc:creator>Kip Hakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &#039;scrummaging&#039; a word??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#39;scrummaging&#39; a word??</p>
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		<title>By: DanLane</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230519</link>
		<dc:creator>DanLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had some great content but a lot of the padding and Digital Winter stuff was lost due to technical issues!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had some great content but a lot of the padding and Digital Winter stuff was lost due to technical issues!</p>
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		<title>By: DanLane</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230518</link>
		<dc:creator>DanLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Olly, we aren&#039;t hugely happy with this episode as we had some great content but technical issues meant we couldn&#039;t bring you some of the better footage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guarantee that next week&#039;s show will be an absolute corker though! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Olly, we aren&#39;t hugely happy with this episode as we had some great content but technical issues meant we couldn&#39;t bring you some of the better footage.</p>
<p>I guarantee that next week&#39;s show will be an absolute corker though! <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ollysk2</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230515</link>
		<dc:creator>ollysk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good show guys -- judging from the comments, the iMovio caught the most attention (and it is a fascinating device, especially for the market it&#039;s aimed at), but am I the only one that was riveted by the power segment?  I LOVED all the solar powered schwag, I can see the big one (Sun Gorilla?) being in the back window of my vehicle charging any number of things.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good show guys &#8212; judging from the comments, the iMovio caught the most attention (and it is a fascinating device, especially for the market it&#39;s aimed at), but am I the only one that was riveted by the power segment?  I LOVED all the solar powered schwag, I can see the big one (Sun Gorilla?) being in the back window of my vehicle charging any number of things.</p>
<p>Great stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-245372</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/bensmith&quot;&gt;@bensmith&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/danlane&quot;&gt;@danlane&lt;/a&gt; Another outstanding MIR show, altho missing one of the Three Musketeers! http://snurl.com/4lpg7&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/sevendotzero/status/970759105&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/bensmith">@bensmith</a> <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/danlane">@danlane</a> Another outstanding MIR show, altho missing one of the Three Musketeers! <a href="http://snurl.com/4lpg7" rel="nofollow">http://snurl.com/4lpg7</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/sevendotzero/status/970759105">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: edgar1013</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230505</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just saw the ikit on boygeniusreport for a mere 175 usd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just saw the ikit on boygeniusreport for a mere 175 usd.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-247284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=10300#comment-247284</guid>
		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/bensmith&quot;&gt;@bensmith&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/danlane&quot;&gt;@danlane&lt;/a&gt; Another outstanding MIR show, altho missing one of the Three Musketeers! http://snurl.com/4lpg7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/bensmith">@bensmith</a> <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/danlane">@danlane</a> Another outstanding MIR show, altho missing one of the Three Musketeers! <a href="http://snurl.com/4lpg7" rel="nofollow">http://snurl.com/4lpg7</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: edgar1013</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230461</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Jack&#039;s hair is awesome! reminds me of Al Pacino,  that alone made the show!&lt;br&gt;getting back to the ikit. i guess it would be cool to have it by your bed side and jump on the web anytime for a quick search. depending on the price point i would consider it. but then again, nothing a N810 can&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Jack&#39;s hair is awesome! reminds me of Al Pacino,  that alone made the show!<br />getting back to the ikit. i guess it would be cool to have it by your bed side and jump on the web anytime for a quick search. depending on the price point i would consider it. but then again, nothing a N810 can&#39;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike42</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230458</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er....the evolution of mobile devices argues the other way. We are carrying more stuff than ever - MP3 Players, digicams, GPS devices, laptops, netbooks, games consoles etc. If people wanted converged devices, then these other devices wouldn&#039;t exist - but they do, in an ever-increasing plethora of niche. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why should evolution mean convergence? I&#039;d argue evolution deliberately diverges. If evolution meant convergence we&#039;d only have a few animals, not the millions of species we have now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a battery-powered world, having one device is a single point of failure - and as Ewan discovered to his loss this weekend in Paris, putting all your e-ggs in one basket just leads to tears ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er&#8230;.the evolution of mobile devices argues the other way. We are carrying more stuff than ever &#8211; MP3 Players, digicams, GPS devices, laptops, netbooks, games consoles etc. If people wanted converged devices, then these other devices wouldn&#39;t exist &#8211; but they do, in an ever-increasing plethora of niche. </p>
<p>Why should evolution mean convergence? I&#39;d argue evolution deliberately diverges. If evolution meant convergence we&#39;d only have a few animals, not the millions of species we have now.</p>
<p>In a battery-powered world, having one device is a single point of failure &#8211; and as Ewan discovered to his loss this weekend in Paris, putting all your e-ggs in one basket just leads to tears <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230457</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See what happens when you start giving prizes to commenters...? ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Seriously guys - bit of a dry one this week.  Soz &#039;&#039;bout that.  Enjoy the variety if not the presentation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mate.</p>
<p>See what happens when you start giving prizes to commenters&#8230;? <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously guys &#8211; bit of a dry one this week.  Soz &#39;&#39;bout that.  Enjoy the variety if not the presentation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230456</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glasto.</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230455</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes everyone - I know girls.  Well... one or two.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, just one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes everyone &#8211; I know girls.  Well&#8230; one or two.</p>
<p>Well, just one.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ricky Chotai</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230454</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricky Chotai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree but if i browse on my n95 for hours, I will kill the battery and I can&#039;t ring or sms anyone. I am very very tempted by this. I think it is awesome. I can be in Uni and just want to check my email or FB very quickly. Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree but if i browse on my n95 for hours, I will kill the battery and I can&#39;t ring or sms anyone. I am very very tempted by this. I think it is awesome. I can be in Uni and just want to check my email or FB very quickly. Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: babernath</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230453</link>
		<dc:creator>babernath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liked the iMovio.  I wouldn&#039;t buy it personally but I wish them well.  I would like to see a bigger screen, possibly a touchscreen that uses the entire space.  Was it easy to close and open - with one hand? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PowerGorilla should win something for the name alone.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best weekly show on the Web. Til next week...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liked the iMovio.  I wouldn&#39;t buy it personally but I wish them well.  I would like to see a bigger screen, possibly a touchscreen that uses the entire space.  Was it easy to close and open &#8211; with one hand? </p>
<p>PowerGorilla should win something for the name alone.  </p>
<p>Best weekly show on the Web. Til next week&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PatrickatJPR</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230450</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrickatJPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, don&#039;t be so hard on yourself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, don&#39;t be so hard on yourself!</p>
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		<title>By: DanLane</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230447</link>
		<dc:creator>DanLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s what you do! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#39;s what you do! <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DanLane</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/10/mir_show_week_42_featuring_the_imovio_ikit.html/comment-page-1#comment-230446</link>
		<dc:creator>DanLane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not the best show we&#039;ve ever done... normal service will resume next week :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the best show we&#39;ve ever done&#8230; normal service will resume next week <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: smstextnews</title>
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		<dc:creator>smstextnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it helped develop your public image Ben...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I was looking for something nice to put in the outtakes that wasn&#039;t Dan&lt;br&gt;vomiting* over the guy from Motorola or James slapping* that guy from Nokia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Both not actually accurate in any way&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2008/10/20 Disqus &lt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it helped develop your public image Ben&#8230;</p>
<p>And I was looking for something nice to put in the outtakes that wasn&#39;t Dan<br />vomiting* over the guy from Motorola or James slapping* that guy from Nokia.</p>
<p>* Both not actually accurate in any way</p>
<p>2008/10/20 Disqus &lt;&gt;</p>
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