Comments on: The T-Mobile G1 & James Whatley: What a fooking annoyance

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:45:01 +0000

Fair enough Will. Continuing the love-in, I can see how I would have annoyed you and no, I'm not with a competitor. I represent one of the UK's top-ten brands – but it's a long way from being a comms biz! I think keeping MIR on a par with the rest of the media is a good move on your part. So let's leave it there.

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:36:30 +0000

My comment was truly idiotic, and I agree with you Mark – belatedly I see that you contribute lots to MIR, my first impression was that it was a 'hit and run' jibe of a comment from an anonymous competitor. Should've checked first, for that I'm sorry.
But I feel that your comment is not accurate – I don't feel that we've dropped the ball (until my comment). Since we were given the go-ahead by T-Mobile we've been giving MIR the same access and level of support that has been given to the FT, The Guardian and all the other 'traditional' media during this launch. There are limited resources to go around. I'm going to step out of this conversation now because I'm not really helping things.

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:21:41 +0000

What? If you're the representative of T-Mobile, is that any way to interact with potential customers? Your concern is not me apparently 'hiding and sniping' it's the overall impression you're creating. I don't need to impress you. You, on the other hand are the ambassador for your client.

Very professional. Well done.

By: Ewan

Ewan — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:20:44 +0000

Yes this is my issue Mr Morrison. The support that big companies give to these kind of trials and demos is generally appalling. One exception is Nokia.

By: Mac Morrison

Mac Morrison — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:04:16 +0000

stepping in to wills defence – i don't know will from adam – but I know how hard it is for agencies to get hold of hardware and sample products – I used to share an office with a pr agency and its was comical the lengths they had to go to, to get samples to send out – and get back again.
including going down the shops and just buying product at times.

which was kind of counter productive.

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:52:28 +0000

@MarkW Nothing like hiding and sniping. How very 2007.

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:45:01 +0000

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:36:30 +0000

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:21:41 +0000

Very professional. Well done.

By: Ewan @ MIR

Ewan @ MIR — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:20:44 +0000

Yes this is my issue Mr Morrison. The support that big companies give to these kind of trials and demos is generally appalling. One exception is Nokia.

By: Mac Morrison aka mostlythis

Mac Morrison aka mostlythis — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:04:16 +0000

which was kind of counter productive.

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:52:28 +0000

@MarkW Nothing like hiding and sniping. How very 2007.

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:45:01 +0000

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:36:30 +0000

By: MarkW

MarkW — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:21:41 +0000

Very professional. Well done.

By: Ewan @ MIR

Ewan @ MIR — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:20:44 +0000

Yes this is my issue Mr Morrison. The support that big companies give to these kind of trials and demos is generally appalling. One exception is Nokia.

By: Mac Morrison aka mostlythis

Mac Morrison aka mostlythis — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:04:16 +0000

which was kind of counter productive.

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:52:28 +0000

Nothing like hiding and sniping. How very 2007.

By: Ben Smith

Ben Smith — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:19:09 +0000

Will kudos for the good-humoured response.

I think the key thing here is always to arrange a loan with an explicit return date stated at the outset. We may not like it, but if we know you only have one device and we're mega privileged to be first we'll plan accordingly.

By: MarkW

MarkW — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:59:33 +0000

Whoops – that's the ball dropped again by T-Mobile and their agencies. Some people never learn. One demo handset. I despair.

By: South77

South77 — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:01:39 +0000

Will, credit the guy for the tone of your response. Bloggers, eh?

By: Mike42

Mike42 — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:40:03 +0000

bet you expect it back still assembled, unprodded and unexposed by Mr Lane…

By: Ewan @ MIR

Ewan @ MIR — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:46:05 +0000

It's insufficient support from T-Mobile that I have the issue with, Will — not your agency.

By: willmcinnes

willmcinnes — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:37:18 +0000

Yep! To be fair, it was super hard to get any devices before launch, such was the demand across the business and the initial scarcity of devices in the UK before launch. And also, these are baby steps – these are the first tentative steps into engaging online for T-Mobile, and from my perspective one handset is better than none, and we can build from here. We are building relationships with a small number of people (we hope) and I reckon the last few weeks will be really important when we look back in a year or twos time. I am talking 'for' T-Mobile here but it's important to recognise that I am an agency guy, telling it honestly how I see it.

By: Kip Hakes

Kip Hakes — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:29:02 +0000

I'd maybe suggest having a couple of review handsets to pass around….