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	<title>Comments on: Mobile Network App Stores: Utter, utter rubbish today</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Kerr</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-242128</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I big up the potential of Ovi store above, but I completely agree with you James. Download! showed how bad Nokia can make things. They really have NO excuse not to make a good job of Ovi Store on either S60 or S40, and quite frankly make it as attractive and easy as iPhone appstore. If they fail on this, they fully deserve the consequences. It&#039;ll just be a shame for all the developers, and the potential. But still, lets wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I big up the potential of Ovi store above, but I completely agree with you James. Download! showed how bad Nokia can make things. They really have NO excuse not to make a good job of Ovi Store on either S60 or S40, and quite frankly make it as attractive and easy as iPhone appstore. If they fail on this, they fully deserve the consequences. It&#39;ll just be a shame for all the developers, and the potential. But still, lets wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I big up the potential of Ovi store above, but I completely agree with you James. Download! showed how bad Nokia can make things. They really have NO excuse not to make a good job of Ovi Store on either S60 or S40, and quite frankly make it as attractive and easy as iPhone appstore. If they fail on this, they fully deserve the consequences. It&#039;ll just be a shame for all the developers, and the potential. But still, lets wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I big up the potential of Ovi store above, but I completely agree with you James. Download! showed how bad Nokia can make things. They really have NO excuse not to make a good job of Ovi Store on either S60 or S40, and quite frankly make it as attractive and easy as iPhone appstore. If they fail on this, they fully deserve the consequences. It&#39;ll just be a shame for all the developers, and the potential. But still, lets wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: James Lai</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-242121</link>
		<dc:creator>James Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;says http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5 (Mobile operator&#039;s App Store) seems not gonna work http://plurk.com/p/j2drx&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jameslai001/status/1309923186&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">says <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5</a> (Mobile operator&#8217;s App Store) seems not gonna work <a href="http://plurk.com/p/j2drx" rel="nofollow">http://plurk.com/p/j2drx</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/jameslai001/status/1309923186">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: James Lai</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-247897</link>
		<dc:creator>James Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;says http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5 (Mobile operator&#039;s App Store) seems not gonna work http://plurk.com/p/j2drx&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">says <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dbzmd5</a> (Mobile operator&#8217;s App Store) seems not gonna work <a href="http://plurk.com/p/j2drx" rel="nofollow">http://plurk.com/p/j2drx</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237519</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did not know that (BTW, how do you get at WAP pages ;) don&#039;t think i ever visited them when in UK, not even sure if any FI operator even has them!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think as Alex Kerr points out above, T-Mobile may have the best idea - Nokia builds &amp; maintains the App Store, T-Mobile brands, bills and does customer support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did not know that (BTW, how do you get at WAP pages <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  don&#39;t think i ever visited them when in UK, not even sure if any FI operator even has them!)</p>
<p>I think as Alex Kerr points out above, T-Mobile may have the best idea &#8211; Nokia builds &#038; maintains the App Store, T-Mobile brands, bills and does customer support.</p>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237518</link>
		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://dirtyaura.org/blog/2009/03/10/mobiledevcamp-slides-platform-stage/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dirtyaura.org/blog/2009/03/10/mobiledevc...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Via @Mike Bradshaw and Teemu Kurrpa.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Says. It. All.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dirtyaura.org/blog/2009/03/10/mobiledevcamp-slides-platform-stage/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://dirtyaura.org/blog/2009/03/10/mobiledevc.." rel="nofollow">http://dirtyaura.org/blog/2009/03/10/mobiledevc..</a>.</p>
<p>Via @Mike Bradshaw and Teemu Kurrpa.</p>
<p>Says. It. All.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan @ MIR</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237516</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan @ MIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, you know the Orange portal still has &#039;THIS IS A FREE PAGE&#039; on top of most of it&#039;s wap pages....   SCARING every customer into being very, very careful about what they click on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you know the Orange portal still has &#39;THIS IS A FREE PAGE&#39; on top of most of it&#39;s wap pages&#8230;.   SCARING every customer into being very, very careful about what they click on!</p>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237514</link>
		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key point there Ewan is - &quot;Two clicks and I&#039;m downloading it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apple&#039;s iPhone kicked the ass out of Nokia Download! and anything else that went before it by way of sheer ease of use along. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would love, love, love the Ovi store to be amazing. I really hope it is. &lt;br&gt;But it the &#039;store&#039; isn&#039;t immediately obvious to your average joe, on a device that *begs* you to play with it and find out more/explore then it has no chance. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apple put the App store on the &#039;home&#039; page. They made it easy to browse, easy to buy and easy to download &amp; install... I mean, you&#039;ve seen *that* TV ad right? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA7328&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;--- yeah, that one. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Ovi and/or Android can come anywhere near the bar set by Apple, then they might, MIGHT have a chance at emulating Apple&#039;s success. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t care if _everyone in the world_ has an &#039;Ovi store enabled&#039; handset - if the UI sucks, they won&#039;t sell a damn thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key point there Ewan is &#8211; &#8220;Two clicks and I&#39;m downloading it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apple&#39;s iPhone kicked the ass out of Nokia Download! and anything else that went before it by way of sheer ease of use along. </p>
<p>I would love, love, love the Ovi store to be amazing. I really hope it is. <br />But it the &#39;store&#39; isn&#39;t immediately obvious to your average joe, on a device that *begs* you to play with it and find out more/explore then it has no chance. </p>
<p>Apple put the App store on the &#39;home&#39; page. They made it easy to browse, easy to buy and easy to download &#038; install&#8230; I mean, you&#39;ve seen *that* TV ad right? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename=TA7328" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename.." rel="nofollow">http://www.tellyads.com/show_movie.php?filename..</a>. &lt;&#8212; yeah, that one. </p>
<p>If Ovi and/or Android can come anywhere near the bar set by Apple, then they might, MIGHT have a chance at emulating Apple&#39;s success. </p>
<p>I don&#39;t care if _everyone in the world_ has an &#39;Ovi store enabled&#39; handset &#8211; if the UI sucks, they won&#39;t sell a damn thing.</p>
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		<title>By: mob4hire</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-242122</link>
		<dc:creator>mob4hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/DominicTravers&quot;&gt;@DominicTravers&lt;/a&gt; great mobile dev debate on MIR... http://is.gd/mJXP &amp; http://is.gd/mJYw&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/mob4hire/status/1306749790&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/DominicTravers">@DominicTravers</a> great mobile dev debate on MIR&#8230; <a href="http://is.gd/mJXP" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJXP</a> &#038; <a href="http://is.gd/mJYw" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJYw</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/mob4hire/status/1306749790">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Mike Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237511</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is just a suspicion, but i have not seen any numbers to confirm or deny it, but the apparent success is due to two things;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) The vast majority of iPhone purchasers have at least one other (if not multiple) Apple products, so already had a working iTunes and were bought into the apple view of the world&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) most of the Maciban (those people for who life is on hold waiting for Sir Steve of Jobs to make announcements), are willing to *pay* *MONEY* for things as long as they are pretty. In fact the Maciban may be the solution to the global financial crisis ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most Normobs have been trained by the operators to never click or download things, as doing so is likely to lead to a giant bill the next month, so even though their S40 phone *could* in theory support lots of apps, the only thing they buy are ring-tones and wallpapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is just a suspicion, but i have not seen any numbers to confirm or deny it, but the apparent success is due to two things;</p>
<p>1) The vast majority of iPhone purchasers have at least one other (if not multiple) Apple products, so already had a working iTunes and were bought into the apple view of the world</p>
<p>2) most of the Maciban (those people for who life is on hold waiting for Sir Steve of Jobs to make announcements), are willing to *pay* *MONEY* for things as long as they are pretty. In fact the Maciban may be the solution to the global financial crisis <img src='http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Most Normobs have been trained by the operators to never click or download things, as doing so is likely to lead to a giant bill the next month, so even though their S40 phone *could* in theory support lots of apps, the only thing they buy are ring-tones and wallpapers.</p>
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		<title>By: dominictravers</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-242123</link>
		<dc:creator>dominictravers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Crikey, it&#039;s all going on this week, great mobile dev debate on MIR... http://is.gd/mJXP &amp; http://is.gd/mJYw just spent 2+ hours writing too&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/dominictravers/status/1306482678&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Crikey, it&#8217;s all going on this week, great mobile dev debate on MIR&#8230; <a href="http://is.gd/mJXP" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJXP</a> &#038; <a href="http://is.gd/mJYw" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJYw</a> just spent 2+ hours writing too</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/dominictravers/status/1306482678">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Ewan @ MIR</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237500</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan @ MIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, kudos on the reply.  I never maintain that iTunes is the Golden Goose.  There are flaws.  But if you&#039;re a developer and you simply HAVE to make a return -- SOME KIND of return, it&#039;s iTunes, iTunes, iTunes.  With an excited eye on Ovi, possibly Blackberry and Android.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s not about being in the top 25 iPhone Apps.  Not necessarily.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I read about a simply brilliant application that allows me to [do something, whatever] -- and if I read it on your blog, Alex, I&#039;d have an EASY method of discovery.  Two clicks and I&#039;m downloading it.  And then I&#039;m telling everyone and their dog about it too. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ovi looks promising, it really does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, kudos on the reply.  I never maintain that iTunes is the Golden Goose.  There are flaws.  But if you&#39;re a developer and you simply HAVE to make a return &#8212; SOME KIND of return, it&#39;s iTunes, iTunes, iTunes.  With an excited eye on Ovi, possibly Blackberry and Android.</p>
<p>It&#39;s not about being in the top 25 iPhone Apps.  Not necessarily.  </p>
<p>If I read about a simply brilliant application that allows me to [do something, whatever] &#8212; and if I read it on your blog, Alex, I&#39;d have an EASY method of discovery.  Two clicks and I&#39;m downloading it.  And then I&#39;m telling everyone and their dog about it too. </p>
<p>Ovi looks promising, it really does.</p>
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		<title>By: ilicco</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilicco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am behind you all the way Ewan - so what do we do about it. We need to take this a step forward, not just complain about the state of play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am behind you all the way Ewan &#8211; so what do we do about it. We need to take this a step forward, not just complain about the state of play.</p>
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		<title>By: joshr</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237494</link>
		<dc:creator>joshr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just an awesome article Ewan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;total respect to you, and MIR in general, for being honest, open, and taking the fight to the industry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;you got balls dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just an awesome article Ewan.</p>
<p>total respect to you, and MIR in general, for being honest, open, and taking the fight to the industry.</p>
<p>you got balls dude.</p>
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		<title>By: mob4hire</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-247956</link>
		<dc:creator>mob4hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/DominicTravers&quot;&gt;@DominicTravers&lt;/a&gt; great mobile dev debate on MIR... http://is.gd/mJXP &amp; http://is.gd/mJYw&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/DominicTravers">@DominicTravers</a> great mobile dev debate on MIR&#8230; <a href="http://is.gd/mJXP" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJXP</a> &#038; <a href="http://is.gd/mJYw" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJYw</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: dominictravers</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-248003</link>
		<dc:creator>dominictravers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Crikey, it&#039;s all going on this week, great mobile dev debate on MIR... http://is.gd/mJXP &amp; http://is.gd/mJYw just spent 2+ hours writing too&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Crikey, it&#8217;s all going on this week, great mobile dev debate on MIR&#8230; <a href="http://is.gd/mJXP" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJXP</a> &#038; <a href="http://is.gd/mJYw" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/mJYw</a> just spent 2+ hours writing too</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Radford</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237484</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Radford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This why the Ovi Store is important - not only S60 but all sorts of downloadable content for S40 devices as well. More mileage out of old, crap phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This why the Ovi Store is important &#8211; not only S60 but all sorts of downloadable content for S40 devices as well. More mileage out of old, crap phones.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceEden</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237483</link>
		<dc:creator>TerenceEden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Apple Store isn&#039;t all roses - &lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/10/0157221&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/1...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;As easy as it is to get stuff on there - a lot of it is rubbish.  You just need to read the reviews of the buggy apps that are out there.  While the User Interface is nice (for both sides) is the User Experience really that great?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something else to consider - there are no shortage of old, crap phones.  Should we (as developers &amp; networks) cater to them or wait until they all upgrade to an iPhone?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s never going to happen.  Besides, people with crap phones still buy games, ringtones, apps, etc.  It&#039;s harder to develop for such a diverse range of underpowered devices - but I think it&#039;s a challenge worth taking up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Operator app stores aren&#039;t wonderful - and it&#039;s hard to get your content on them.  We&#039;ve been too long in changing because we&#039;ve been focused on big deals with big companies.  That&#039;s no longer a perfect business model.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;T&lt;br&gt;[Not speaking for Vodafone, my benevolent employer]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Apple Store isn&#39;t all roses &#8211; <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/10/0157221" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/1.." rel="nofollow">http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/1..</a>.<br />As easy as it is to get stuff on there &#8211; a lot of it is rubbish.  You just need to read the reviews of the buggy apps that are out there.  While the User Interface is nice (for both sides) is the User Experience really that great?</p>
<p>Something else to consider &#8211; there are no shortage of old, crap phones.  Should we (as developers &#038; networks) cater to them or wait until they all upgrade to an iPhone?</p>
<p>That&#39;s never going to happen.  Besides, people with crap phones still buy games, ringtones, apps, etc.  It&#39;s harder to develop for such a diverse range of underpowered devices &#8211; but I think it&#39;s a challenge worth taking up.</p>
<p>Operator app stores aren&#39;t wonderful &#8211; and it&#39;s hard to get your content on them.  We&#39;ve been too long in changing because we&#39;ve been focused on big deals with big companies.  That&#39;s no longer a perfect business model.</p>
<p>T<br />[Not speaking for Vodafone, my benevolent employer]</p>
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		<title>By: stu_vaz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-242124</link>
		<dc:creator>stu_vaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Retweeting &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/Ew4n&quot;&gt;@Ew4n&lt;/a&gt;: My mobile operator app diatribe.  Agree?  Violently disagree?  Let me know: http://s3nt.com/dsiq&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/stu_vaz/status/1304851044&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html&quot;&gt;Topsy page&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Retweeting <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/Ew4n">@Ew4n</a>: My mobile operator app diatribe.  Agree?  Violently disagree?  Let me know: <a href="http://s3nt.com/dsiq" rel="nofollow">http://s3nt.com/dsiq</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/stu_vaz/status/1304851044">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html">Topsy page</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: steveprocter</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveprocter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I&#039;d like to see the results these days.  Back about 5 years ago we built a few java apps, including a London Underground one, and put it on a major UK operators portal. The downloads over an entire year were in the hundreds ;-(  Oh and yes, it took about 4 months of negotiations and contract signing before we got there. So how is 2009, have things got better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I&#39;d like to see the results these days.  Back about 5 years ago we built a few java apps, including a London Underground one, and put it on a major UK operators portal. The downloads over an entire year were in the hundreds ;-(  Oh and yes, it took about 4 months of negotiations and contract signing before we got there. So how is 2009, have things got better?</p>
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		<title>By: steveprocter</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237480</link>
		<dc:creator>steveprocter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve exclusively been able to do a deal with Trevor le Chateau, vice president of partner promotions &amp; baked beans, so that all java app developers can stick a poster on the wall of his cafe, promoting their app to the potential 6 million customers.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve exclusively been able to do a deal with Trevor le Chateau, vice president of partner promotions &#038; baked beans, so that all java app developers can stick a poster on the wall of his cafe, promoting their app to the potential 6 million customers&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MattRadford</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237479</link>
		<dc:creator>MattRadford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, you could compare the 100x100px rubbish Watchmen app for your bollocks Samsung, to the sheer class that is the Watchmen app released for the iPhone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a ton of great content included, mostly not needing connectivity. Lots of potential to do future movie purchase tie-ins... &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allaboutiphone.net/2009/03/the-unborn-watchmen-and-interactive-mobile-billboards/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.allaboutiphone.net/2009/03/the-unbor...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, you could compare the 100&#215;100px rubbish Watchmen app for your bollocks Samsung, to the sheer class that is the Watchmen app released for the iPhone.</p>
<p>There&#39;s a ton of great content included, mostly not needing connectivity. Lots of potential to do future movie purchase tie-ins&#8230; <a href="http://www.allaboutiphone.net/2009/03/the-unborn-watchmen-and-interactive-mobile-billboards/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.allaboutiphone.net/2009/03/the-unbor.." rel="nofollow">http://www.allaboutiphone.net/2009/03/the-unbor..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan @ MIR</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-237478</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan @ MIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah I love that cafe-down-my-street line, Steve!</description>
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		<title>By: steveprocter</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveprocter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, are people still doing the &quot;we have 50 million customers&quot; pitch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The little cafe down my street &quot;has a potential market of 6 million customers from all across London&quot;. So bloody what!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;Steve, iTAGG &quot;the sms provider that can help you reach 3 billion mobiles worldwide&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, are people still doing the &#8220;we have 50 million customers&#8221; pitch.</p>
<p>The little cafe down my street &#8220;has a potential market of 6 million customers from all across London&#8221;. So bloody what!</p>
<p>regards<br />Steve, iTAGG &#8220;the sms provider that can help you reach 3 billion mobiles worldwide&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stu_vaz</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/03/mobile_network_app_stores_utter_utter_rubbish_today.html/comment-page-1#comment-248089</link>
		<dc:creator>stu_vaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Retweeting &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/Ew4n&quot;&gt;@Ew4n&lt;/a&gt;: My mobile operator app diatribe.  Agree?  Violently disagree?  Let me know: http://s3nt.com/dsiq&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Retweeting <a href="http://topsy.com/twitter/Ew4n">@Ew4n</a>: My mobile operator app diatribe.  Agree?  Violently disagree?  Let me know: <a href="http://s3nt.com/dsiq" rel="nofollow">http://s3nt.com/dsiq</a></span></span></span></p>
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