Comments on: Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html Daily news and opinion for 250,000 industry executives and mobile fanatics Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:14:00 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kangmin Lee http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-241677 Kangmin Lee Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:04:39 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-241677 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">스티브잡스가 앱스토어를 싫어하는 이유? http://bit.ly/qrKlc</span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/kangminlee/status/3354968521">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html">Topsy page</a>]</div></span> 스티브잡스가 앱스토어를 싫어하는 이유? http://bit.ly/qrKlc

[Original tweet, Topsy page]

]]> By: Kangmin Lee http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-240591 Kangmin Lee Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:04:39 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-240591 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">스티브잡스가 앱스토어를 싫어하는 이유? http://bit.ly/qrKlc</span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/kangminlee/status/3354968521">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html">Topsy page</a>]</div></span> 스티브잡스가 앱스토어를 싫어하는 이유? http://bit.ly/qrKlc

[Original tweet, Topsy page]

]]> By: ollysk2 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-240595 ollysk2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:29:21 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-240595 I agree, bring on the Android for sure.. I think that before worrying <br>about web apps they need to start worrying about opening up thier <br>attitude and platform a bit. Android's major strength is not just it's <br>multitasking, etc over the iPhone, but the fact that a dev can write <br>for it without worrying about the crapshoot that is the App Store (as <br>the recent Google Voice fiasco demonstrates). Android has more <br>options for devices, a more open environment, and if the gathering <br>steam continues, almost as much industry support. Really, Apple is <br>left with a much prettier UI, and a world class marketing department.<br><br>Don't get me wrong, I love what my iPhone can do, but I'm getting more <br>and more interested in Android as certain gaps are filled -- if Apple <br>doesn't step up the innovation, I'll be on an Android handset this <br>time next year, I can almost guarantee.<br><br>--<br>Sent from my mobile. I agree, bring on the Android for sure.. I think that before worrying
about web apps they need to start worrying about opening up thier
attitude and platform a bit. Android's major strength is not just it's
multitasking, etc over the iPhone, but the fact that a dev can write
for it without worrying about the crapshoot that is the App Store (as
the recent Google Voice fiasco demonstrates). Android has more
options for devices, a more open environment, and if the gathering
steam continues, almost as much industry support. Really, Apple is
left with a much prettier UI, and a world class marketing department.

Don't get me wrong, I love what my iPhone can do, but I'm getting more
and more interested in Android as certain gaps are filled — if Apple
doesn't step up the innovation, I'll be on an Android handset this
time next year, I can almost guarantee.

–
Sent from my mobile.

]]> By: ollysk2 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239128 ollysk2 Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:29:21 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239128 I agree, bring on the Android for sure.. I think that before worrying <br>about web apps they need to start worrying about opening up thier <br>attitude and platform a bit. Android's major strength is not just it's <br>multitasking, etc over the iPhone, but the fact that a dev can write <br>for it without worrying about the crapshoot that is the App Store (as <br>the recent Google Voice fiasco demonstrates). Android has more <br>options for devices, a more open environment, and if the gathering <br>steam continues, almost as much industry support. Really, Apple is <br>left with a much prettier UI, and a world class marketing department.<br><br>Don't get me wrong, I love what my iPhone can do, but I'm getting more <br>and more interested in Android as certain gaps are filled -- if Apple <br>doesn't step up the innovation, I'll be on an Android handset this <br>time next year, I can almost guarantee.<br><br>--<br>Sent from my mobile. I agree, bring on the Android for sure.. I think that before worrying
about web apps they need to start worrying about opening up thier
attitude and platform a bit. Android's major strength is not just it's
multitasking, etc over the iPhone, but the fact that a dev can write
for it without worrying about the crapshoot that is the App Store (as
the recent Google Voice fiasco demonstrates). Android has more
options for devices, a more open environment, and if the gathering
steam continues, almost as much industry support. Really, Apple is
left with a much prettier UI, and a world class marketing department.

Don't get me wrong, I love what my iPhone can do, but I'm getting more
and more interested in Android as certain gaps are filled — if Apple
doesn't step up the innovation, I'll be on an Android handset this
time next year, I can almost guarantee.

–
Sent from my mobile.

]]> By: Ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239077 Ewan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:30:11 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239077 I like your idea about a netbook with a mobile connection as the next craze! I like your idea about a netbook with a mobile connection as the next craze!

]]> By: Facebook User http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239076 Facebook User Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:28:18 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239076 Chris Messina sounds like a forgotten poet: "..the stale metaphor of applications..." or "...a world of ad-hoc connected identity agents living and feeding on a mesh of interwoven open data." Google isn't going to rank him highly for his keywords. <br><br>On the other hand, the iPhone is a bit-player, although owners will never admit it. Its market penetration is a drop in an ocean of increasingly complex mobile computing devices . (Aha! I can insert lots of adjectives like Messina; Nirvana is around the corner.)<br><br>I agree there's more "..whix-bang..." to the thing. The iPhone awakened a curiously lackadaisical mobile industry that measured its success on "buckets of minutes" and a mobile Web offering the local weather and sports scores.<br><br>As LG, Samsung, Palm and, yes, Nokia finally get off their behinds and advance the state of mobile computing, the iPhone glitz will fade into oblivion. What Steve Jobs should worry over is the future of Apple's laptops. There's no reason why a netbook tethered to a more basic handset might be the next craze. Chris Messina sounds like a forgotten poet: “..the stale metaphor of applications…” or “…a world of ad-hoc connected identity agents living and feeding on a mesh of interwoven open data.” Google isn't going to rank him highly for his keywords.

On the other hand, the iPhone is a bit-player, although owners will never admit it. Its market penetration is a drop in an ocean of increasingly complex mobile computing devices . (Aha! I can insert lots of adjectives like Messina; Nirvana is around the corner.)

I agree there's more “..whix-bang…” to the thing. The iPhone awakened a curiously lackadaisical mobile industry that measured its success on “buckets of minutes” and a mobile Web offering the local weather and sports scores.

As LG, Samsung, Palm and, yes, Nokia finally get off their behinds and advance the state of mobile computing, the iPhone glitz will fade into oblivion. What Steve Jobs should worry over is the future of Apple's laptops. There's no reason why a netbook tethered to a more basic handset might be the next craze.

]]> By: Ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239075 Ewan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:07:12 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239075 Sorry, I should have been specific -- I meant $49 only. Simply $49. No contracts, no commitments, simply $49 from your local Walgreens. Sorry, I should have been specific — I meant $49 only. Simply $49. No contracts, no commitments, simply $49 from your local Walgreens.

]]> By: Partners_in_Grime http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239074 Partners_in_Grime Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:05:11 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239074 AT&T sells a refurbished iPhone for $49. AT&T sells a refurbished iPhone for $49.

]]> By: iPhone Lixo http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-240592 iPhone Lixo Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:53:11 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-240592 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Porque Steve Jobs odeia a App Store do iPhone http://tinyurl.com/n5vynq <a href="http://topsy.com/s?q=%23iPhone">#iPhone</a> <a href="http://topsy.com/s?q=%23iPhoneLixo">#iPhoneLixo</a></span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/iphonelixo/status/3089429044">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html">Topsy page</a>]</div></span> Porque Steve Jobs odeia a App Store do iPhone http://tinyurl.com/n5vynq #iPhone #iPhoneLixo

[Original tweet, Topsy page]

]]> By: Ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239070 Ewan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:15:42 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239070 Don't confuse me for an anti-Apple chap. I'm a big fan. I think they'll always bit a bit-player though -- but that's always been their strategy. It'll be that way unless we start seeing $49 iPhone Nanos hitting the market (which would be brilliant) Don't confuse me for an anti-Apple chap. I'm a big fan. I think they'll always bit a bit-player though — but that's always been their strategy. It'll be that way unless we start seeing $49 iPhone Nanos hitting the market (which would be brilliant)

]]> By: Wayne http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239069 Wayne Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:13:05 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239069 Really, you sound a lot like the anti-iPod pundits of the early days: Apple's iPod was overpriced and would soon be undercut by cheaper MP3 players that were cheaper, had greater capacity, FM tuners and all kinds of features that the iPod did not (and would never) have. Substitute "iPhone" for "iPod" and "Android" for "Rio" (or whatever player was going to eat the iPod's lunch).<br><br>Eventually, the iPod beat (crushed, actually) competitors based on price, as Apple smartly rode a sharp design down the economy-of-scale curve, yet kept introducing cool new things at the top of the line. We see that now, as the iPhone has gone from $500 to $200, with the previous generation dropping to $100 new.<br><br>And they're still way ahead. In big ways and in many small ways. (Have you seen the Take Back The Beep campaign and how it turns out Apple's ahead of the curve on this, too?)<br><br>I know that I do not get cellphone reception most of my business day, so I won't be depending on network-dependent apps any time soon. And of course, these apps -- if they actually live off-phone -- will tend to be lowest-common-denominator-ugly, as they always have been.<br><br>Not to mention that Safari/Webkit's already ahead of the curve in terms of web animation, etc, if that does turn out to be a factor. Apple is learning lessons in the "Cloud computing" realm, and Android is all about development on the phone, not on the network/web. Really, you sound a lot like the anti-iPod pundits of the early days: Apple's iPod was overpriced and would soon be undercut by cheaper MP3 players that were cheaper, had greater capacity, FM tuners and all kinds of features that the iPod did not (and would never) have. Substitute “iPhone” for “iPod” and “Android” for “Rio” (or whatever player was going to eat the iPod's lunch).

Eventually, the iPod beat (crushed, actually) competitors based on price, as Apple smartly rode a sharp design down the economy-of-scale curve, yet kept introducing cool new things at the top of the line. We see that now, as the iPhone has gone from $500 to $200, with the previous generation dropping to $100 new.

And they're still way ahead. In big ways and in many small ways. (Have you seen the Take Back The Beep campaign and how it turns out Apple's ahead of the curve on this, too?)

I know that I do not get cellphone reception most of my business day, so I won't be depending on network-dependent apps any time soon. And of course, these apps — if they actually live off-phone — will tend to be lowest-common-denominator-ugly, as they always have been.

Not to mention that Safari/Webkit's already ahead of the curve in terms of web animation, etc, if that does turn out to be a factor. Apple is learning lessons in the “Cloud computing” realm, and Android is all about development on the phone, not on the network/web.

]]> By: Ewan http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239068 Ewan Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:12:42 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239068 Bring on the Android invasion! Bring on the Android invasion!

]]> By: Eric Hernandez http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-240593 Eric Hernandez Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:09:57 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-240593 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Mobile Industry Review: Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store http://bit.ly/2yoO2x</span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/ericfh/status/3088032477">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html">Topsy page</a>]</div></span> Mobile Industry Review: Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store http://bit.ly/2yoO2x

[Original tweet, Topsy page]

]]> By: ollysk2 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239066 ollysk2 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:50:25 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239066 All I have to say is that if Apple really feels this way, then put up or shut up; if they feel the browser is where it's at then freaking he'll just implement already! They just had one of their milestone moments with the release of 3.0 -- so why not wow the world with your amazing new browser tech? Google will get gears for mobile perfected soon, and Apple needs to be right there competing, or Android will simply keep moving further ahead. <br><br>My .02 cents (written on my iPhone) All I have to say is that if Apple really feels this way, then put up or shut up; if they feel the browser is where it's at then freaking he'll just implement already! They just had one of their milestone moments with the release of 3.0 — so why not wow the world with your amazing new browser tech? Google will get gears for mobile perfected soon, and Apple needs to be right there competing, or Android will simply keep moving further ahead.

My .02 cents (written on my iPhone)

]]> By: Job Search Pages http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-240594 Job Search Pages Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:57:49 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-240594 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store | Mobile Industry Review: Chris Messina has posted a rather interestin.. http://bit.ly/6sCdu</span> <div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/jobsearchpages/status/3086032053">Original tweet</a>, <a href="http://topsy.com/tb/www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html">Topsy page</a>]</div></span> Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store | Mobile Industry Review: Chris Messina has posted a rather interestin.. http://bit.ly/6sCdu

[Original tweet, Topsy page]

]]> By: iPhone Lixo http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-246649 iPhone Lixo Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:53:11 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-246649 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Porque Steve Jobs odeia a App Store do iPhone http://tinyurl.com/n5vynq <a href="http://topsy.com/s?q=%23iPhone">#iPhone</a> <a href="http://topsy.com/s?q=%23iPhoneLixo">#iPhoneLixo</a></span></span> Porque Steve Jobs odeia a App Store do iPhone http://tinyurl.com/n5vynq #iPhone #iPhoneLixo

]]> By: facebook-522876272 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-239056 facebook-522876272 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:19:31 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-239056 Although the title is a bit provocative, the article is right. Apple, Google, etc do see the tectonic shift happening in application development, and more importantly, usage. People spend more and more of their time interacting with applications that do not entirely reside on their device. More often than not, none of the application resides on the device. The challenge will be developing frameworks to cope with the myriad of form factors and input methods. Although the title is a bit provocative, the article is right. Apple, Google, etc do see the tectonic shift happening in application development, and more importantly, usage. People spend more and more of their time interacting with applications that do not entirely reside on their device. More often than not, none of the application resides on the device. The challenge will be developing frameworks to cope with the myriad of form factors and input methods.

]]> By: Eric Hernandez http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-247282 Eric Hernandez Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:09:57 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-247282 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Mobile Industry Review: Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store http://bit.ly/2yoO2x</span></span> Mobile Industry Review: Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store http://bit.ly/2yoO2x

]]> By: Job Search Pages http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2009/08/why_steve_jobs_hates_the_iphone_app_store.html/comment-page-1#comment-247777 Job Search Pages Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:57:49 +0000 http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/?p=16555#comment-247777 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store | Mobile Industry Review: Chris Messina has posted a rather interestin.. http://bit.ly/6sCdu</span></span> Why Steve Jobs hates the iPhone App Store | Mobile Industry Review: Chris Messina has posted a rather interestin.. http://bit.ly/6sCdu

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