Nokia: Please do more incremental updates to your handset software

New software leads to fresh new experiences.

Except when you don’t get any new software updates.

I’ve had my Nokia N86 (from 3) for three weeks now. And there’s not been a single update.

Those experienced Symbianers readers will chuckle at that last statement.

“Three weeks!” you’ll exclaim, “More like 3 YEARS!”

Because this is how it is with Nokia.

Update schedules are, for I’m sure, valid reasons, super-slow.

But if you put an icon on my phone’s Application desktop — a good looking little green arrow — what do you expect me to do? I’ll click it.

And .. well.. ok so there were no updates when I checked on the day the handset arrived.

Annnnd then a week later, no updates.

Two weeks later, I checked again.

Nothing.

And this morning? Heck, just for the fun of it, I tried again.

Nothing.

This is bad news. Because I associate ‘good’ things happening with updates. For what seemed like years, I railed at Nokia for making the handset firmware upgrade process excruciatingly difficult.

Now I’ve got a handset that does update over-the-air, I’d like to see it actually do that.

I’m not asking for big things, necessarily.

I’d just like to see stuff happen. See that somebody at Nokia actually cares.

Couldn’t the N86 product manager roll out some deliberate updates, even if they’ve got nothing big to send? Update an icon. Change a menu name. Anything.

So that when I click ‘update’ I get a response.

Right now I feel that, as a consumer, nobody at Nokia gives a stuff about my N86 or my experience with it.

Which is a real, real shame.

This kind of consumer connection is very important, especially on the top-end (and wholly capable) devices. I’m accustomed to getting my iPhone refreshed on a regular basis with helpful new additions. Likewise with my desktop software. I really like it when TweetDeck, Mailplane or any of my applications pops up with ‘update notification’. Sometimes I have a read at the changelog to see what’s been updated, other times I just hit update without bothering. But each time, I feel better. I feel good. I feel like someone’s alive behind the curtain — that the lights are on.

It would be simply amazing to read a regular changelog from one of the Nokia N86 product managers.

e.g. “Thanks everyone for your feedback about [SOME MENU]. We’ve now updated that to [WHATEVER]. This modification is available today so please do run the update.”

I think consumers would feel a lot more engaged with their device as a result.

Is it just too difficult for Nokia to do anything like this for their OTA-updatable handsets?

  • Also a problem is this

    'I’ve had my Nokia N86 (from 3)'

    You've got a branded operator phone, so even when there is a new update, and I believe one is coming (with face detection in the camera software!) It could well be a few months later before 3, Orange, O2 (or whoever) deem it 'okay' to run on their network, add their operator logos and shizzle and allow your particular product code to update. Lucky for you 3 are good at this and will get their version of a firmware turned around quicker than most, my friends Orange N96 is still rocking v11 or v12 while my clients with unbranded ones are bang up to date on v30.

    Nokia do have a problem when it comes to updating (aside from the above!), changelogs seem to pop up weeks after the firmware, I want to know NOW what the update will do!

    My advice, get your product code changed and enjoy slightly more updates, and yes, I know you shouldn't HAVE to, but thems the breaks! :)

    K
  • Nokia need to sort out their Software Updates, Android and iPhone are putting them to shame whilst proving to the world that updating your software on a phone actually isn't that difficult.

    My wife has a lovely N79, great phone, amazing functionality, software is awful, phone keeps hanging on here requiring the obligatory battery out re-boot at least once a day, obviously a bug so I tell her a software update will fix that! As I don't trust Nokia OTA (bad experience in the past) I do the good old 'reliable' way of connecting to PC Suite, and checking for an update, surprise surprise 'no updates are available for your device'. Current version of software on the phone is 12.x.x, I do some searching on Forum Nokia, and guess what, the latest version from Nokia is 30.x.x - huge difference. The only way to update to 30.x.x is for me to change the version number on the device to a generic european one (thus invalidating my warranty), download the latest version and hack it on to the phone - hardly user friendly! And all because I don't want my wife complaining to me every day that her stupid new phone needs re-booting, whilst she eyes my iPhone jealously. As an aside, she is a dedicated Nokia user, has never had a phone from another manufacturer, she swears by her 'trusty' Nokias, however within a few weeks of me crossing to the darkside and getting an iPhone and seeing how easy and simple it is to use, her love of all things Nokia is waning....

    I'm not sure if the blame lies with Nokia or our lame operators? And its not just one operator to blame here, I had the same problem with my N95 on Voda two years ago, this time the N79 is on T-Mobile and I can't be bothered to even attempt to call customer services because I know the very pleasant customer services operative on the end of the phone won't have a clue what I am talking about and it will be a waste of an hour of my life.

    Sort it out between you Mr Nokia and Mr Operator, software updates aren't really that difficult, people now expect, in fact demand the latest software on their phones, and while your at it, make it simple too please!
  • Well, hang on there a minute. Another day, another golden opportunity for the whingers to crawl out from under the woodwork and have a go at Nokia. Great! My day is complete now :)

    OK, OK, you have a slight point (but I hope you take mine). Some sort of response from the update service would be a nice, perhaps even just a 'we're working on it, there's an update due in x days/weeks'. But be realistic on the actual updates themselves. These are significant fundemental changes to the system software. Any one of them could turn millions of phones into bricks if Nokia don't carefully program it right. This is an extremely sophisticated engineering and testing process (yeah, it really is).

    It's all very well for people that don't architect, engineer and build software systems for a living (i.e. your ordinary tech journo or punter in the street) to go "whinge whinge whinge" every other day. And they DO have a point. Things need to improve. But balance that with the realities that you don't know about or understand that are faced by the engineers building this stuff, and the product managers who have to release it, because it's also their company's rep and their jobs on the line. It's a balancing act, right? So, don't stop asking for stuff. But just temper it a little.

    And please don't make me laugh when comparing it to iPhone or Android (as whingers are prone to do). They've got more problems than the Labour government, and where they don't have problems, it's invariably because their OSes simply aren't as capable or the user is otherwise locked down in some way. iPhone and Android are a daily dissapointment, as well as a daily joy, for millions of users (or not very many millions in the case of Android!).
  • I really like your 'we're working on it, there's an update due in X days/weeks' idea, Alex!
  • Alex, you make some good points, however to clarify my standpoint - I work with handset manufacturers, my engineers work on developing these operating systems, we develop a lot of the features that people use so I fully understand the issues behind software engineering and the complexities of getting a build to work, and the problems that can go wrong if its released with bugs.

    I also promote the hell out of Nokia to my customers, if you want to get an application developed to hit the biggest market share then develop for Nokia (S60 or J2ME), my last 6+ phones have been Nokias and I loved them. I fancied a change this year and swapped to an iPhone to satisfy my curiousity, its a fantastic device, easy to use, simple UI, yes there are bits of my N95 I miss (multi-tasking, flash, camera etc etc) but going back to the N95 or N79 now feels clunky and old school.

    My point is this though, Nokia are currently on build 30.x.x for most N series phones, the operator either isn't interested, or does not care to pass on these builds to customers. They are happy to 'sell / promote' phones to users, but not happy to support them after its out of the box, its all about minues and data charges. Remember Nokia already test these builds on phones, they release them to the open community for unlocked phones without too many issues, unfortunately the Operator's internal processes won't allow them to take a previously tested build without re-testing before passing it onto the end user.

    The main bashing here is against Mr Operator who will not or cannot pass on OS updates quickly to Nokia users.
  • gunglewack
    Check out http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-and-softwar...

    A few items down there's a N86 update. Go to Menu > Applications > Software Update and you'll see what other apps can be updated. Register with MyNokia and they'll spam you relentlessly, but at least tell you when software is available.
  • zunguri
    Wanting trivial phone updates has to be the funniest and most moronic thing I've heard in a good, long time. Maybe you should just *#7370# your phone every day so you can get your updates.
  • Thanks for taking the time to contribute zunguri
  • The truth is, the current model of operator subsidised & supported handsets doesn't serve the consumer very well here. As some others have alluded to, there just isn't any incentive for the operator concerned to commit resources to QA test extra functionality for handsets already in the field - it seems painful enough when there are critical bugs! The real pain is that the carrier still "owns" the consumer and their handset, so where there is no direct upside for them, things like upgrades and additional features happen very slowly or not at all on devices that are already out there.
    The reason why the iPhone, for example, is different - because to a large extent, Apple have wrestled the ownership of the user experience away from the operator and the manufacturer has more of an incentive to work hard on keeping the user happy with the OS experience during the life of the device. I can't help thinking that generally the end user would be better served if the carriers were able to hand over more control to the handset vendor.
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