Comments on: Mr Operator: Mobile data ‘congestion charging’ is coming soon

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By: All About iPhone UK

All About iPhone UK — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:50:05 +0000

I'm on an unlimited data plan, using an iPhone with O2. It's nice to know I won't be billed any extra for excess data, but seriously, do I need it? I'd be happy knowing that I can get decent speeds within a capped amount, rather than an uncapped amount of shitty “3G if you're extremely lucky”.

And I have to agree with Stephen Holmes – normobs will hear “limited data” and be scared out of using it, rather than risk an excess charge. Data is still seen as a horribly expensive luxury.

Also: Nice of Mr. Operator to reply to my recent post

By: Ewan

Ewan — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:22:20 +0000

Ahhh interesting viewpoint!

By: Mac Morrison

Mac Morrison — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:51:54 +0000

economy 7 FTW

By: Mac Morrison

Mac Morrison — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:51:14 +0000

well try using an O2 iphone in bishopsgate at lunchtime (well anytime)
or in london bridge station.

or anywhere in central london

NO DATA

By: PatrickatJPR

PatrickatJPR — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:42:54 +0000

An interesting update on this from AT&T - "3% of smartphone users now consuming 40% of network capacity".

More here - http://www.rethink-wireless.com/article.asp?art...

By: Stephen Holmes

Stephen Holmes — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:17:40 +0000

And my brother with Sky Sports (and satellite is still in the minority of TV viewing compared to terrestrial) refuses to pay for the 'extras' as he's already paid for it and thinks they're a bunch of thieves trying to sell him something that should already be included. I'm not saying that people can't grasp it, just that it's not exactly going to endear them to many people.

I'd love to see who'd bring this in first, all it takes is one operator to not participate in this and they'll be able to hoover up shed loads of new users as the exodus from the others.

They just need to stick their hand in their pockets and stump up for infrastructure, it's not like they're exactly short of a couple of quid Ã¢â‚¬â€œ although perhaps they are, as they clearly can't afford a dictionary to find out what the definition of "unlimited" actually is.

By: Mike42

Mike42 — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:06:00 +0000

How is this idea of billing different to Sky? I pay Ã‚Â£25 for a Sky package that gives me a certain bundle of stuff, including unlimited movies (on certain channels, of a certain age/type) but then there are premium movies/sports events that I press the pay button for, because I wan to watch them now instead of for free in 3 months. Consumers can grasp that concept OK, how's congestion charging done right any different?

By: Stephen Holmes

Stephen Holmes — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:07:12 +0000

Nope.

You'll just find that everyone slides back to shitty simple phones, and the gentle transition to smart phones will stall and rewind. It's only with phones like the iPhone with 'unlimited' data that's finally getting folk interested in the smart phones and doing anything exciting with them.

Those with 'normal' are starting to look at smart phones but only looking at the moment, still burnt after using data a couple of times to update their Facebook page and finding it added Ã‚Â£20 a month to their tariff, so promptly stopped using it. And if it costs more / is super slow - what's the point?

By: Ewan

Ewan — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:12:03 +0000

Would you pay?

By: ARJWright

ARJWright — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:06:49 +0000

Charing for congestion is fine, as long as operators are open about when those congested moments are, what (voice, data, or mix) is causing it, and what are they doing to minimize the impact to the QoS when it does happen. Early adopters and mainstream folks are alike in knowledge helping them to see why behaviors need to change, but just making them change without yielding that information is a setup for worse.