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		<title>Are Britain&#8217;s mobile operators too busy tweeting to actually sell anything? [Or: Are their Social CRM systems really this rubbish?]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ewan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the bullet points on my todo list this morning was: Get a new iPhone 4S. I&#8217;ve procrastinated enough. Now I need to actually do something about it. It&#8217;s time I owned an iPhone 4S instead of playing with test devices. I have accounts on all the UK networks: Everything Everywhere, Three, Vodafone and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the bullet points on my todo list this morning was: Get a new iPhone 4S.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve procrastinated enough. Now I need to actually do something about it. It&#8217;s time I owned an iPhone 4S instead of playing with test devices.</p>
<p>I have accounts on all the UK networks: Everything Everywhere, Three, Vodafone and o2. All of them are either eligible for upgrade or I can add a second line. I&#8217;ve got the budget to blow on a new device. I am ready to contract.</p>
<p>So I thought I&#8217;d use this opportunity to do a test of the UK mobile operator social selling apparatus. </p>
<p>I tweeted the following message and prepared for the deluge of responses:</p>
<blockquote><p>Operators, I&#8217;m about to buy an iPhone 4S today. The custom could be yours. Just tweet me!</p></blockquote>
<p>I was expecting to get a qualifying tweet within 5 minutes from one of the operators &#8212; you know, something to check that I&#8217;m not joking and to determine that I do wish to be engaged with a view to fulfilling a transaction.</p>
<p>I was then expecting for the conversation to a direct message and for the operator to explain that &#8220;Sarah&#8221; (i.e. some named individual) would like to give me a call to discuss. </p>
<p>Do remember that if I had initiated a phone call with any of the above operator sales lines, I&#8217;d have been able to do the deal within about 5 minutes or less. Remember I&#8217;m also an existing customer of each network so there&#8217;s no crazy extensive credit check &#8212; indeed, most of the operators (Vodafone for example) would be able to put any upfront costs on to next month&#8217;s bill, making the transaction very simple. I also knew precisely what I wanted to buy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also aware that as a mobile choppy, known to most operator PR teams, the chances are I&#8217;d get a skewed result. I wondered if some eagle-eyed observers would have spotted by tweet and have called their social teams to make sure my tweet got actioned. </p>
<p>I followed up my first Tweet with this one:</p>
<blockquote><p>Meanwhile I&#8217;m writing a post about my intent to buy an iPhone today with o2 &#8212; at their store, as I&#8217;m assuming no operators will reach out</p></blockquote>
<p>(You can find that post <a href="http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2011/12/im-going-to-lease-an-iphone-4s-from-o2-this-afternoon.html">here</a>)</p>
<p>So here are the results in no particular order:</p>
<p><strong>T-Mobile</strong>: I heard absolutely nothing from them<br />
<strong>Orange</strong>: Absolutely nothing<br />
<strong>Vodafone</strong>: Nothing! [Come on Vodafone! What happened?? I have *FOUR* lines eligible for upgrade with you!]<br />
<strong>Three</strong>: There was some interaction with their social team<br />
<strong>o2</strong>: They did reach out!</p>
<p>Deary me.</p>
<p>I really did expect an overwhelming deluge. </p>
<p>I thought operators were really hot on social CRM! I really did. Of course, I expect if I&#8217;d actually engaged an account like <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/vodafoneukdeals">@vodafoneukdeals</a> (their Twitter profile for their online shop) I might have got somewhere.</p>
<p>I assumed that all the operators would have some kind of special monitoring in place, ready to pluck out messages like mine and stick them through the sales funnel. </p>
<p>Theoretically all I needed was for one of the social media teams to get someone from the sales team to phone me. The @ThreeUK social media team did volunteer to arrange a call. That&#8217;s probably the best response I had. They used the phrase &#8220;can we arrange a call?&#8221; which I interpreted as, &#8220;Can we have a chap from India call you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I replied back saying it was ok &#8212; and that I&#8217;d call 333 myself. I probably will. I just am not in the mood for the highly functional Indian call centres at the moment. I didn&#8217;t really want to give my life story to them either. If, however, ThreeUK had said &#8220;Sarah&#8221; or &#8220;Paul&#8221; or &#8220;Jeff&#8221; was going to call me, then I&#8217;d have probably reacted differently. Just, you see, I&#8217;ll probably be doing an upgrade with my Three account &#8212; and it&#8217;ll be an early upgrade, so there&#8217;s usually a bit of cash involved. I don&#8217;t mind that. However the last time I tried to do this, the Indian chap I spoke with was horrified at the £200 I&#8217;d need to pay. &#8220;Yeah, that&#8217;s fine,&#8221; I said. He tried to convince me to wait 6 months so he wouldn&#8217;t have to charge me that. He was well meaning. Very well meaning. But all I wanted was the handset and I was happy to pay. So I didn&#8217;t want another re-run of this.</p>
<p>But at least there was some interaction from Three.</p>
<p>o2 were pretty good too. I had a good dialogue with them across the afternoon. They didn&#8217;t offer to sell me a device (i.e. just get it done by phone/tweet/email or whatever). Instead they supported the process with me &#8212; because I had already indicated I intended buying a lease iPhone. I think that&#8217;s totally acceptable. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think though, wouldn&#8217;t you, that operators would by now have some kind of system in place that tracks what *I* say in the context of spending money on telecommunications stuff. It&#8217;s all very well being able to interact with consumers by social media, but how about actually selling them stuff? </p>
<p>On the basis of around £250/month spend, I&#8217;m worth £3,000 a year to Vodafone. If you assume Vodafone UK company does about £5 billion-ish a year, I contribute 0.00006% of their revenues. </p>
<p>Not that much, I suppose. But a few of those start to add up. </p>
<p>Is there no &#8220;<em>quick, Ewan wants to buy something</em>&#8221; register that pops up and alerts the sales people sitting on their hands at the call centre? Or is the market on the social media channels that small that it&#8217;s really not worth bothering about? That could certainly be the case.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I saw a rather nifty system from Amdocs at this year&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amdocsintouch.com/miami/">InTouch event</a> that helped track and manage this kind of social customer interaction. I must ask them about it. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, what&#8217;s your reaction? </p>
<p>Was I expecting just a little bit too much? I&#8217;m sure the operator sales teams reading this would have rather they&#8217;d made the sale than ignored it. Did I do it the wrong way? Or perhaps I should have been more blatant? Maybe I should have addressed each operator directly with my sales intent, rather than have them come back to me?</p>
<p>Anyway, do let me know what you think. My next post will discuss my o2 in shop experience.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t have an iPhone 4S.</p>
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		<title>RIM brings SAP into BlackBerry fold</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[RIM might be best known for mobile email, but that&#8217;s not stopping it having a crack on popularising other enterprise applications on the BlackBerry. The latest contender is SAP&#8217;s CRM products, which the company is now integrating with the BlackBerry platform. The pair said their first joint offering will be a &#8220;native BlackBerry smartphone client [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIM might be best known for mobile email, but that&#8217;s not stopping it having a crack on popularising other enterprise applications on the BlackBerry. The latest contender is SAP&#8217;s CRM products, which the company is now integrating with the BlackBerry platform.</p>
<p>The pair said their first joint offering will be a &#8220;native BlackBerry smartphone client that will merge the power of the SAPÂ® Customer Relationship Management (SAP CRM) application with core BlackBerry smartphone applications&#8221; like email and address book. Rather smartly, the twosome are promising that if you&#8217;re using SAP CRM and BlackBerry email, it won&#8217;t cost you too much time or effort to get this new system up and running.</p>
<p>Some SAP products have been available on the BlackBerry for a while, but this partnership will open up more applications to device users, and better data synchronisation. This is the sort of thing is playing to the BlackBerry&#8217;s crowd. While taking aim at the consumer market with social networking et al might help take the BlackBerry into pastures new, it&#8217;s these sort of good solid enterprise moves that will keep its natural user base from getting distracted by the likes of the iPhone or Windows Mobile.</p>
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		<title>Oracle makes applications Nokia-ready</title>
		<link>http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/03/oracle_makes_applications_nokia-ready.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nokia and Oracle have announced the latest fruits in the five-year co-operation to make the companies&#8217; devices and software interoperable: business users with a fondness for Siebel CRM will now be able to get access to the applications on the go. The pair have announced that Nokia&#8217;s Intellisync Device Management will now be able to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia and Oracle have announced the latest fruits in the five-year co-operation to make the companies&#8217; devices and software interoperable: business users with a fondness for Siebel CRM will now be able to get access to the applications on the go.</p>
<p>The pair have announced that Nokia&#8217;s Intellisync Device Management will now be able to work with Oracle&#8217;s Siebel CRM platform; Oracle&#8217;s Database Lite is now available for Symbian version 9/S60 Version 3, while Siebel Wireless is also ready for the Nokia E90 Communicator.</p>
<p>What with the news about <a href="http://www.smstextnews.com/2008/03/nokia_bringing_microsofts_silverlight_to_mobiles.html">Silverlight coming to Nokia phones</a> last week, it seems the device maker is doing a good job of wooing the big enterprise software players onto the Symbian platform of late. More evidence Symbian fancies itself as an operating system for business users too?</p>
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