Wait, you can’t DELETE photos from the iOS photostream?

I do have to wonder at Apple, sometimes.

When the company introduced the reverse scroll in OS X Lion, so that all of a sudden I had to drag downwards instead of up (or whatever), I did have to think twice about the validity of it. I eventually trained myself, but I know quite a few people who just switched off the function.

Full screen apps and all this swiping got confusing. Genuinely confusing. I more or less get it, but I’m willing to bet that my parents won’t have a damn clue.

I think it’s a screw-up from Apple. I think they’ve made things more difficult that they need to be.

Which brings me to the Photostream.

I’m delighted that it works.

I did some experimentation with my iPhone, my MacBook Air and my Desktop back in the UK. I took a rubbish photo on the iPhone and seconds later it appeared in the photostreams of both machines. Woop!

I took a few more shit photos just to see it working. I beamed with delight.

Then I tried to delete them.

I couldn’t seem to delete them on the ‘photostream’ bit of the iPhone. So I deleted the photo from the gallery on the iPhone. I figured that must be the master copy. I waited a few moments. Nope.

Piece of flipping bollocks.

I tried to go into the photostream on iPhoto on my Mac to delete. No. No option to delete.

What?

Who?

I’m in a strange place at the moment. That is, Apple stuff DOES NOT WORK.

I am supremely, supremely pissed off. The whole flipping reason I pay stupid, STUPID prices for this shit is so that it works.

“It just works” — that’s the mantra the whole thing is meant to live by, right?

So how do I delete a photo?

I can’t believe I am even having to THINK. I pay the Apple tax so that I don’t have to think.

There’s probably a very simple explanation.

I’m willing to bet there’s probably an option or a tick box or some command that I’ve totally missed.

But hold on a moment, I am pretty good at this stuff. I am a bit of a geek. I have programmed quite a few successful, scalable systems architectures in my time. If I don’t get it — immediately — then what about the rest of the population?

Surely it’s not unreasonable to assume that if you DELETE a photo from the device you took it, it should therefore remove itself from the photostream?

This is actually a rather important feature, n’est pas?

I logged into iCloud.

Fat lot of fucking use that is at the moment. I logged in looking for the photo gallery.

Well, again, it’s a reasonable expectation, right? Remember I am paying through the flipping nose for this whole experience. And that’s all fine as long as it works. So imagine my annoyance when there’s no online gallery.

I presumed that since these photos are being placed on the iCloud that when I log into it, I’ll see some sort of online-picasa-style gallery. I thought perhaps that’s where I would do the deleting.

Nope.

That, er, doesn’t seem to be there.

So now… now I have to do the flipping unthinkable. I now have to do a sodding Google search to find out the answer to something that should have been FIXED, Apple.

Oh guess what?

Read this paragraph from the iCloud page:

1000 of your latest photos. With you all the time.
iCloud manages your Photo Stream efficiently so you don’t run out of storage space on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. If you have Photo Stream enabled on your iOS device, every single photo you take appears in a special Photo Stream album that holds your last 1000 photos. You can’t edit or delete photos from your Photo Stream. If you want to touch up a photo or keep a favorite shot permanently, simply save it to your Camera Roll. iCloud stores new photos for 30 days, so you have plenty of time to connect your iOS device to Wi-Fi and make sure you always have your most recent shots handy.

Massive, massive FAIL Apple.

That’s fucking useless.

So every photo I take — EVERY PHOTO — whether it’s a blurred shot of my foot or a throw-away screenshot, it’s going to be WITH ME for 30 days? And I can’t delete it?

So you’re telling me, Mr Apple, that I could grab my friend’s iPhone, visit some dodgy adult sites and take some screenshots (which will go straight into his photostream) and he’ll have to live with that for 30 days? And so will his parents whose iPads are sharing the same account?

Oooof.

Now then. That’s a problem.

Update: I negated to point out that the reason this is a problem is that my expectations have been entirely mismanaged. I presumed. I assumed. I thought it worked differently than it actually goes. I was given the impression — or, more likely, I applied my assumptions to the raw information I was given, most likely during the Steve Jobs iOS 5 keynote earlier this year. Am I expecting way too much of Apple or is this genuinely a stupid, stupid fail point?

Update 2: A few Apple apologists are really worried that you, dear reader, will arrive at this post and having read my above tantrum, conclude that there is indeed no way to ‘delete photos’ from Photo Stream. There is. You can clear out all the photos if you want using a command on iCloud. Unfortunately that dumps the whole stream, lock stock. So if you do find your friend has uploaded some naughty photos to your Photo Stream as a joke, and you need to delete them, you can.

It’s not actually THAT simple though. You’ll find the full details on the Apple knowledge base. Once you’ve dumped them from the iCloud command, you’ll then need to go sequentially through each flipping iOS device you own and reset the Photo Stream. Here are the specific instructions from that Apple support post:

How do I delete photos from my Photo Stream in iCloud?

Individual photos cannot be deleted from your Photo Stream. You can, however, delete all the photos in your Photo Stream by clicking the Reset Photo Stream button in your account at icloud.com. The Reset Photo Stream button will instantly delete all Photo Stream photos stored in iCloud, but it will not remove any Photo Stream photos that have already been pushed to your devices.

How do I delete photos from my Photo Stream on my devices?

After deleting the photos from your Photo Stream in iCloud, you can remove the Photo Stream photos from your devices as follows:

On your iOS devices, go to Settings > iCloud > Photo Stream and turn Photo Stream off. This will delete all the photos from your Photo Stream album. If there are any photos you want to keep on your device, make sure to add them to an album or save them to your Camera Roll first.

FAIL, FAIL and thrice FAIL Apple.

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  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Ben, I was just reading through the Apple support pages again and I’m surprised to see that you do actually do have to turn the product ‘off’ if you’d like to remove the photo stream from a particular iOS device!

  • http://benjam.in Ben Smith

    Disappointing. Although I’ve given up on iCloud for now anyway…

    I created an account using my existing Apple ID only to now discover that I can’t migrate my MobileMe account into it as that uses my me.com address (created relatively recently) which Apple believes is completely separate. There’s no clear warning that the two addresses need to be identical or that they can’t be merged. The only option is to give-up the MobileMe address and start-over… 

    Lots of people on the support forums caught in the same trap. At least I only lightly used it so the ‘cost’ for me to abandon it is minimal.

    Services really do seem to be Apple’s achilles heal.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    I’m about to do the same. Goodness me you’d have thought they could have sorted it by now, eh?

  • M_densham

    This is crazy. Wouldn’t it be simpler and far more functional for Photostream to simply sync all photos for every device, but then if you choose to delete a photo From WHICHEVER device, that photo
    Is them deleted across the board the next time a sync happens??? That is the way Dropbox works for documents and it’s great – there is even an ‘undelete’ facility for 30 days after the deletion if you log onto the site itself.

    Apple – that is the way it SHOULD be done!!!!

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Agreed!

  • http://www.niccolobrogi.com Niccolò Brogi

    _It is_ kind of retarded you can’t delete photos from it.

    They’ll probably add the functionality soon, though. They’re still at 5.0, 5.1 will have a delete button.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Why?

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Nice one Tkdoug!

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    I’m pleased I’m not the only one! The HDR example you gave is a ridiculous one. I’m surprised at Apple!

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Uh oh. That’s not good either!

  • Clivesinclair

    Can’t believe some people share their iCloud account with partners or children!

    Also if Photostream doesn’t work the way you want it too – the magic slider moved to the off position will solve your concerns.

    To defend Apple – photostream works perfectly, as Apple designed it too. It’s just that it doesn’t work as some people would like it to.

    Isn’t that the case with most products/services/software we use/buy?

    I don’t like the way it works, so I turned it off. Some companies might not have given you that option.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    That’s even worse!

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    If you don’t like it switch it off? Oh come now Clive that’s sounding very much like you’re an Apple Apologist defending the crown. How about Apple making it work properly so I don’t have to switch it off?

  • Jeffnelson2003

    YOU are an idiot. turn function off, turn on, swipe this way, that way. Why can’t we just delete individual photos from Photo Stream? Stupid Apple

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Agreed!

  • Brett

    I love these posts from these known nothing basement dwellers. 
    This is just too funny given Ewan a good time with invalid points and Apple BS.
    Enjoyed thoroughly.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Ah you’re very kind Brett!

  • Anonymous

    Whoa fiest miester. Cut the language and don’t get so mad. Sheesh.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Heh!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bryant-Griner/849560603 Bryant Griner

    When I NEEDED to delete a single photo from my phtotostream and eventually arrived that the only way to do that is to clear out my whole photostream, I was indeed pissed.

    I pray to baby jesus that Apple will improve this in the coming months. They also should put your gallery on iCloud.com too… I don’t think we’re asking for the world but at times I have also noticed that apple has fu*#!* up my expectation levels… 

     I guess this is what it feels like to be a 22 year old girl in a relationship.

  • Sonyphoto

    Worse yet… even when you go to iCloud and say “reset photo stream” and turn off photo stream on your device, when you turn the device back on, there they are.  So no matter what, it’s 30 days of fail.

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Oh dear

  • Jblenio

    Sorry Answer Guy: Photostream, in my opinion, is an epic fail. Since I’ve had it, I have basically no idea how to use it. It sucks just like iTunes. AND, by the way, I love Apples hardware. They stink on the software end though, because they have no clue how to make their software user friendly.

    Photostream is dumb, because not only do I have my regular photo album on my phone, but I also have the photostream album on my iphone 4 taking up space. What’s the point of that? If anything, make it easy for me to figure out how to use the damn thing. Don’t be such an Apple lover that you fail to see where they fail. Photostream, at this point, is something I have no idea how to use, and I don’t understand it’s purpose.
    When I think of cloud storage, I think of Dropbox…which at one point Apple wanted to purchase. Yes! I want total control over my photos, what photos I can store, what photos I can delete, etc. etc. Furthermore, give me the ability to store other files too; pdf’s, .doc, or any other for that matter.

    Apple wants to control their cloud storage too much, and what they have done is make a cloud storage system that doesn’t make much sense at all.

    Apple doesn’t get it. It’s a great company that develops great hardware. But, they aren’t very good on the software end, let alone understanding what the consumer wants…again…from the software standpoint only. You have to be a computer guru to understand how to use all of the features in iTunes. Now iCloud makes the same mistake.

    Fail! Fail! Fail! I’m just going to shut it off on my iPhone. What’s the point. I have much more control by simply opening iPhoto and syncing directly.

  • Si

    This is a classic case of apple thinking they know what a user wants, rather than asking the users in the first place. They do it a lot, and often get it right, but are a million miles off with this piece of rubbish! Got it working, smiled, realised can’t delete, off it goes.

  • Tim_fleming

    Ewan, I must say I agree with everything you said, I am seriously thinking about going back to Windows unless Apple address all of the issues that you mentioned sooner rather than later, I was a big Apple fan, still am I suppose, but I am very frustrated at the moment because of Lion and Photostream. I hope the powers that be in Apple HQ get to read your post .

  • http://www.mobileindustryreview.com Ewan

    Tim, apparently they’ve fixed this in the next update. I hope it’s the case! We shall see…

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